Engine lag at sloped traffic junction

[phant]

At TCM, they will always tell you no problem shown..

Previously, I have a problem with my compressor and they also say no problem.
Until one day, my car decided to give up and started blowing all the hot air from engine bay.

When car was sent to them one day after major servicing, they say they are not able to determine such issue.
It more like a suck thumb issue to them but to us, its more of inconvenience..

I told them no point having NPMP where you guys treat me as normal customers sending in for servicing.

[JLHeng]

At TCM, they will always tell you no problem shown..

Previously, I have a problem with my compressor and they also say no problem.
Until one day, my car decided to give up and started blowing all the hot air from engine bay.

When car was sent to them one day after major servicing, they say they are not able to determine such issue.
It more like a suck thumb issue to them but to us, its more of inconvenience..

I told them no point having NPMP where you guys treat me as normal customers sending in for servicing.

Hi,

Care to share with outlet?

CheerS!

[kt]

I did throttle body cleaning but not engine flush. Will do it for my next servicing. Would that help? I just changed my CVT oil during my last servicing leh. Also changed my spark plugs too. Engine oil i'm using is 5W40.

How does the power mesh work bro?

Have you done engine flush & throttle body cleaning? What type or viscosity of engine oil did you use? Have you change or flush your CVT oil before? The above mentioned will help to improve the engine response especially if you are using 0/5W - 30 engine oil instead of 40 or 50... Using E-throttle will increase your fuel consumption. Maybe you can try out our latest Power Mesh which has the similar effect as E-throttle without affecting fuel consumption

[m_k_tang]

I did throttle body cleaning but not engine flush. Will do it for my next servicing. Would that help? I just changed my CVT oil during my last servicing leh. Also changed my spark plugs too. Engine oil i'm using is 5W40.

How does the power mesh work bro?

Check out my latest product, EPS Power Mesh, at: http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php/topic,9894.240.html

[kt]

I just sent my car for servicing at this workshop @ Sin Ming. Told the boss abt the issues in my car. He suggested retuning my ECU for me. He said he can only do that when my engine has totally cool down. After retuning, my car's pick up is very smooth now. Power is also back when stopping at sloped junctions  . Strange thing is, i sent my car for retuning of ECU at TCM before but I didn't see such improvement back then  The boss also did some adjustment to the fuel filter coz I told him the fuel meter won't go to full after pumping full tank (he mentioned something about adjusting the needle or something like that). Now, my fuel meter is back to normal I think  Will pump another full tank to observe and see. the boss did say that the fuel filter has to be changed, although he suggested changing it after another 20000 - 30000km.

[jonpaul0104]

I just sent my car for servicing at this workshop @ Sin Ming. Told the boss abt the issues in my car. He suggested retuning my ECU for me. He said he can only do that when my engine has totally cool down. After retuning, my car's pick up is very smooth now. Power is also back when stopping at sloped junctions  . Strange thing is, i sent my car for retuning of ECU at TCM before but I didn't see such improvement back then  The boss also did some adjustment to the fuel filter coz I told him the fuel meter won't go to full after pumping full tank (he mentioned something about adjusting the needle or something like that). Now, my fuel meter is back to normal I think  Will pump another full tank to observe and see. the boss did say that the fuel filter has to be changed, although he suggested changing it after another 20000 - 30000km.

i also did my ECU re-tune at TCM....felt good for first few days after which back to normal.....

[tranceluscious]

Hi,

Care to share with outlet?

CheerS!

Damn... I bought their servicing package. If they give me poor service then the package is rather redundant. Still under warranty but nothing is done to resolve the car issues.

Now i'm thinking hard whether to stay with TCM or not.

[spyder_696]

Did that during drive up to Genting last Nov.....dun feel any difference either......

I also notice that the problem is worst if stuck in traffic jam......car feel no power to move off at all unless floor the accelerator....then even only move at a snail pace...sometimes cars behind also honk honk....

Frightening experience was when stuck at Orchard jam...then went up slope to Taka shopping center.....car move at a snail pace and i got to use L gear to inch my way up....tot that it was going to die on me.....

did your malfunction light on the instrument panel light up?
how old is your car?
my nov 07 car sounds like your car..
happens 2 time to me already... but when it happens, the malfunction light is lighted up...
i need to put to P the gear level, and restart the engine...
sibei sian, dont know what can be wrong...

[jonpaul0104]

did your malfunction light on the instrument panel light up?
how old is your car?
my nov 07 car sounds like your car..
happens 2 time to me already... but when it happens, the malfunction light is lighted up...
i need to put to P the gear level, and restart the engine...
sibei sian, dont know what can be wrong...

nope...for me the CEL did not light up....everything is as per normal.....

my car is Jun 05 batch.....

[ironkiat]

I just sent my car for servicing at this workshop @ Sin Ming. Told the boss abt the issues in my car. He suggested retuning my ECU for me. He said he can only do that when my engine has totally cool down. After retuning, my car's pick up is very smooth now. Power is also back when stopping at sloped junctions  . Strange thing is, i sent my car for retuning of ECU at TCM before but I didn't see such improvement back then  The boss also did some adjustment to the fuel filter coz I told him the fuel meter won't go to full after pumping full tank (he mentioned something about adjusting the needle or something like that). Now, my fuel meter is back to normal I think  Will pump another full tank to observe and see. the boss did say that the fuel filter has to be changed, although he suggested changing it after another 20000 - 30000km.

Bro, which is the workshop ah? Interested to go down and do the same... similar issues like everyone, slow pickup after stop, sometimes traffic light, sometimes after turning, sometimes cutting lane on express way..sighs.

[kt]

The workshop is at Sin Ming Autocare, #01-08, name of workshop is Kian Teong Auto Centre. Name of the boss is Mike. His no is 98760818. You can say Kok Tong introduced you. He told me that apparently, many Latios face this prob. He said that the ECU will go crazy after either changing of car battery or cleaning of throttle body. I did these two recently so maybe that explains why my car was so sluggish.

[kt]

Just an update. I've been driving two full tanks now and my FC is 12km/l, which is a marked improvement from my previous FC of 9km/l  Power and pick up is definitely much better than before. Will continue to monitor my FC and responsiveness of the car.

[akaace]

The workshop is at Sin Ming Autocare, #01-08, name of workshop is Kian Teong Auto Centre. Name of the boss is Mike. His no is 98760818. You can say Kok Tong introduced you. He told me that apparently, many Latios face this prob. He said that the ECU will go crazy after either changing of car battery or cleaning of throttle body. I did these two recently so maybe that explains why my car was so sluggish.

what is the price for re-tune?

[kt]

The boss charged me $80, same price as what TCM charged me. But I think u'd better call and ask before u go down coz the boss told me he charged $120 for those workshops who sent their Latios for him to re-tune.

Okay I have been driving for 5 full tanks and have been monitoring my FC. It is 12km/l +. So I think the FC shd be pretty stable by now. The lagging also no longer appears when stuck in jams. So my hypothesis for my case is that it's the ECU issue, coz I recently changed my battery and clean the throttle body, both of which the workshop boss said could make original settings of the ECU go off.

I also sent my car for re-tuning at TCM before, but the poor  FC and lagging reappear after a week or so. I guess they did not re-tune the ECU when the engine has totally cooled. Just my guess only.

[idone2u]

Folks.. this is my experience...

my 07 Latio cannot start moving at traffic light....

check it - Gear box problem....
I needed a re-con gear box at 3500.
if I overhaul the gear box - then it will be more and 7 days...
At tan chong - it replace gear box at 13,000 !

this is a big problem...

[jonpaul0104]

Folks.. this is my experience...

my 07 Latio cannot start moving at traffic light....

check it - Gear box problem....
I needed a re-con gear box at 3500.
if I overhaul the gear box - then it will be more and 7 days...
At tan chong - it replace gear box at 1300 !

this is a big problem...

TCM replace gearbox at only 1300? or 13000???

another bro mentioned going to Khang Auto to overhaul the gearbox.....maybe u can try going there for 2nd opinion....

Nissan Motors should start giving 10yrs warranty on this CVT gearbox in Singapore as what was given in US....

But sigh we dun have consumer protection here.....

[jonpaul0104]

TCM replace gearbox at only 1300? or 13000???

another bro mentioned going to Khang Auto to overhaul the gearbox.....maybe u can try going there for 2nd opinion....

Nissan Motors should start giving 10yrs warranty on this CVT gearbox in Singapore as what was given in US....

But sigh we dun have consumer protection here.....

http://www.nissanusa.com/owning/warranty.html

[kt]

Partly due to the ******** COE system...Down here, we only got the "certificate" to drive the car for 10 years. Most people don't. So makes no sense to have warranty for the gearbox. In US, they don't have the ingenious system that we have here. So they'll drive the car for 10 years and above so makes sense to have 10 years warranty for the gearbox.

[jonpaul0104]

Partly due to the ******** COE system...Down here, we only got the "certificate" to drive the car for 10 years. Most people don't. So makes no sense to have warranty for the gearbox. In US, they don't have the ingenious system that we have here. So they'll drive the car for 10 years and above so makes sense to have 10 years warranty for the gearbox.

No lah. Dun think it is due to COE issue.....now we have cars 3-5yrs old with CVT problem......since in S'pore, warranty till 100K km or 3 yrs whichever earlier.....our traffic situation/condition is worst than US cos we have frequent start/stop.....

In my opinion, I think more due to we dun have US type of consumer protection.....NIssan US web states for cars manufactured from 2003-2010 CVT only....i guess Nissan Motors know that there is reliability issue for the CVT manufactured during this period so they cover it in case of more legal suits later on....

[idone2u]

TCM replace gearbox at only 1300? or 13000???

another bro mentioned going to Khang Auto to overhaul the gearbox.....maybe u can try going there for 2nd opinion....

Nissan Motors should start giving 10yrs warranty on this CVT gearbox in Singapore as what was given in US....

But sigh we dun have consumer protection here.....

Sorry sorry it was 13,000 !!!! Replace gear box