yeah, it's thick judging by the slower move off now. well, i should have but i guess it's too late. the package allows between shell and mobil. For Shell it's 5w 40, so wanted mobil 0w40 on the picture since previous owner was using it, they say cost more. then settled for the mobil thinking it's should at least be the same as shell. but then, they put in 5w50. sigh... really didn't think in the interests of their customer.