Author Topic: My FC getting worse.......help!! (Read 311761 times)

sighs, i reaching half tank soon. wait till i tk pic n show u mine. u mayb delight w ur FC result.
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Is the photo ready to share? Time to brighten others at the time of bad economy lei

idiotboi89 · « **Reply #647 on:** February 18, 2009, 12:40:41 AM »

everytime i see this thread... i depressed....

Silver · « **Reply #648 on:** February 18, 2009, 12:44:59 AM »

don't be depressed

you can ask the high achievers to take you for a ride and you can see how they drive

maybe you can pick up a tip or two?

idiotboi89 · « **Reply #649 on:** February 18, 2009, 01:43:03 AM »

Quote from: Silver on February 18, 2009, 12:44:59 AM

don't be depressed

you can ask the high achievers to take you for a ride and you can see how they drive

maybe you can pick up a tip or two?

haha dont think i am tat patient.. i got a fat heavy foot ( excuses )

nowadays usage of car also super inconsistent sometimes use like mad sometimes park @ home.. so hard to actually compare. One thing for sure.. the back suspension seems to be getting lower

kyorei82 · « **Reply #650 on:** February 18, 2009, 08:48:12 AM »

Quote from: iagree on February 16, 2009, 04:45:56 PM

hi kyorei82

next time count me in aso lah.

count u in can..but horz..i dun have ur no. lehz..hehe

my no is all over the forum..haha

jliow · « **Reply #651 on:** March 05, 2009, 08:16:52 PM »

since starting this thread, I've not identify a single effective solution to improving FC for latio.

Some suggested stuff like Spider. and all, but i seriously don't think its going to convince me, well at least from the way some contributors are putting it, I still cannot be convinced.

Some bros may or may not agree with me, but many here dumped their FC contributions by citing their travel experience on NSHW or West Malaysia trips, which I strongly disagree in IMHO that it is a good guage for FC.

Do bear in mind we have audiences here who are newbies to driving, and citing or tempting them to make such long trips are nevertheless hazardous.

However I do have some tips to share based on my past 1 yr driving latio

Tyre pressure - Set Front 250Kpi Rear 230
Engine Oil - Shogun 0w-30
Tyre: Stock

To acheive FC of 14-15 heres what my driving conditions were - most of the time a lone, Traving a daily trip of approx 120KM, driving from Changi Airport to Tuas Ave 5, heavy traffice conditions on some stretch of AYE, I drive ave 80-90KM/hr on most segments, but close to tuas I rev a little to 100-110 km/hr as the road really void of cars and U could really see far ahead. Did this for almost 4 days a week, clock total 560km for 39L of added fuel

To Acheive FC of 11-12, my driving conditions were mainly urban, frequent peak hour traffic light jams only 9Km on HW daily. On average I clock 420KM on 36-37L of fuel.

Mos of the time I am between 11-12. times where I burn more fuel waiting to get into town car park.

To make better FC I also findout letting your car warm for abt 3-5 mins during morning startup saves u FC by up to 1 instead of driving off straigt after parking overnight esp on a cooler morning.

Shogun EO 0w30 also makes a lot of difference. FC used to be erratic and unstable with Mineral oils and Fasflo full sync oil. For almost 5K now on shogun, FC are very stable

Since most of us are average car users who drive from home to work and then drop or pickup wife kids, occasional travel to malls on weekends, I can say this car is 11-12 FC only. best obtained was 13, but that was really rare.

Take note also it saves u more fuel and make better FC by switching off engines during car wash if u use the commercial ones.

PS: I love the joy of manual car wash by myself, but when your car gets peppered by bird crap, u gave up washing with your bare hands

SoL · « **Reply #652 on:** March 05, 2009, 09:34:58 PM »

Quote from: jliow on March 05, 2009, 08:16:52 PM

To make better FC I also findout letting your car warm for abt 3-5 mins during morning startup saves u FC by up to 1 instead of driving off straigt after parking overnight esp on a cooler morning.

Hey, can you clarify on this point? How exactly do you know FC saves by 1? I believe the best way to go for a cold startup in the morning is to drive off straight away. Why waste fuel idling and warming up at 1100 rpm when you can put the fuel to good use at 2k rpm?

jliow · « **Reply #653 on:** March 05, 2009, 11:23:43 PM »

Quote from: SoL on March 05, 2009, 09:34:58 PM

Hey, can you clarify on this point? How exactly do you know FC saves by 1? I believe the best way to go for a cold startup in the morning is to drive off straight away. Why waste fuel idling and warming up at 1100 rpm when you can put the fuel to good use at 2k rpm?

you don't feel the car is slow in picking up and u tend to push a little more harder on accelerator to get in line with the average traffic speed when the cold engine light is still on?

Yes petrol are consumed at idle, but not as much as wasting fuel when U push it and rev harder just to get it to speed.

SoL · « **Reply #654 on:** March 06, 2009, 12:15:56 AM »

Oh but are you driving the new Latio with the fuel consumption display? Do the numbers tally?

Because idling at a cold start uses alot of fuel too, since engine is running at a higher rpm to warm it up faster.

jliow · « **Reply #655 on:** March 06, 2009, 12:22:48 AM »

Mine is older one no FC meter

I personally feel the car drags when the engine still cold. rev it up uses more petrol without effect to the speed and push I need

U want to believe, believe, no need to argue with me and say all the I think U thought stuff.

I find your reasoning of car idling during a cold star consumes a lot more petrol ridiculous. I may have ovestate a little on warm up time, of 3-5 mins, even 1 min is still better than none

liewks · « **Reply #656 on:** March 06, 2009, 01:07:34 AM »

I think there are some things that can be done to reduce FC:

- Keep tyres properly inflated.
- Switch of the engine when stopped. Avoid idling.
- Avoid short trips.
- Avoid A/C.
- Drive as slowly as you can on highways in the highest possible gear ratio with the torque converter locked up. Wind resistance varies as the *square* of speed. Those with built in FC gauges can easily verify that speed costs fuel. A warmed up Toyota Wish can maintain a steady 21+km/L when cruising at 70km/hr on level ground (measurement averaged over 7km). That's with the A/C running (low). A Latio can do better than this. My guess is that it will pull 23+km/L under the same conditions.
- Keep air filter clean.
- Change engine oil at specified intervals. Use a low viscosity oil.
- Avoid braking unecessarily. Look ahead, well ahead and time the lights if you can. Keep sufficient buffer to avoid having to brake when the car in front changes speed.
- Accelerate smoothly and gently.

SoL · « **Reply #657 on:** March 06, 2009, 09:58:29 AM »

Quote from: jliow on March 06, 2009, 12:22:48 AM

Mine is older one no FC meter

I personally feel the car drags when the engine still cold. rev it up uses more petrol without effect to the speed and push I need

U want to believe, believe, no need to argue with me and say all the I think U thought stuff.

I find your reasoning of car idling during a cold star consumes a lot more petrol ridiculous. I may have ovestate a little on warm up time, of 3-5 mins, even 1 min is still better than none

I'm just saying that idling a car during cold start is a waste of petrol. After all, it has been widely publicized that the best way to warm up is to start driving. 3-5 min is too much, maybe around 30 seconds for the oil and everything to circulate would be fine.

I'm not flaming or not believeing, but I'm just curious how you can calculate saving "FC up to 1", since you don't have a FCD, the only way to calculate FC is at top-ups, and its impossible to tell since there are a lot of other factors for each tank.

chesterchua · « **Reply #658 on:** March 06, 2009, 01:57:46 PM »

personally i ever search on the net for info abt morning start up. And the info i m given is to let it run for approx. 30sec and u can drive off. The car is better warm up when u drive. of course u aint allow to suddenly rev the car but maintain a slow n steady speed/rpm. And personally i do this every morning. sometime i start the engine and i was sending sms/putting my bag in the boot/checking the map, i spent few more mins and i realised my metre that cold icon still haven gone off. but using the 30sec method, the cold engine icon actually gone off as soon as i m like 1-2 level down the MSCP.

just my 0.00000002 cent. dun flame me.

mindman · « **Reply #659 on:** March 06, 2009, 02:34:11 PM »

Quote from: liewks on March 06, 2009, 01:07:34 AM

I think there are some things that can be done to reduce FC:

- Keep tyres properly inflated.
- Switch of the engine when stopped. Avoid idling.
- Avoid short trips.
- Avoid A/C.
- Drive as slowly as you can on highways in the highest possible gear ratio with the torque converter locked up. Wind resistance varies as the *square* of speed. Those with built in FC gauges can easily verify that speed costs fuel. A warmed up Toyota Wish can maintain a steady 21+km/L when cruising at 70km/hr on level ground (measurement averaged over 7km). That's with the A/C running (low). A Latio can do better than this. My guess is that it will pull 23+km/L under the same conditions.
- Keep air filter clean.
- Change engine oil at specified intervals. Use a low viscosity oil.
- Avoid braking unecessarily. Look ahead, well ahead and time the lights if you can. Keep sufficient buffer to avoid having to brake when the car in front changes speed.
- Accelerate smoothly and gently.

Hi, 5w30 is consider low viscosity oil ???
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