Author Topic: Do I need new tires yet?  (Read 10099 times)

Offline moochi

  • Cool Engine (0 rpm)
  • Posts: 46
Do I need new tires yet?
« on: July 22, 2008, 07:53:45 PM »
Hi guys,

Took over a latio sports 8 mths ago, was told the tires were in original state (toyo make)

I have no problem with them so far, although the outer pattern has worn down, it has not worn down the middle tread yet. I feel that they are still very good on the road, quick response when i step on brakes and so on... btw, my mileage is close to 54,000 now.

So do i really need to change them? If so, what kind? I heard Yokohama and Hankook tires are good. Any input is appreciated!

Many thx for replying cos I'm a noob in automotive...  :confused1:

Offline aerosignal

  • Mid Zone (3000 rpm)
  • ***
  • Posts: 548
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2008, 09:32:06 PM »
I probably get flamed for this but the sure way to know when to change is when the treads are near the same level as the tread wear indicator. They MUST be replaced when they are at the same level or below (cannot tell when it is below because the indicator would have started to wear by then).
Here's a link for more info and what a tread wear indicator is.
http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/tp/tp2823/rotation.htm
I don't use feel or mileage for guide because one is subjective while the other differs for different tires.

Offline Carmodz

  • High End (5000 rpm)
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,733
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 09:34:00 PM »
hi bro,

in my opinion, at 54,000km, its about time to change. The original tyres better known as stock tyres are rather lasting and hence the thread may still be quite deep. Although you are still comfortable driving with these tyres, but they may have harden due to our hot and wet climate.

as a general guide, some pple tend to change tyres from the following reasons:

1. Average every 2 years (some bros i know change every 1.5 yrs)
2. Worn out thread (perhaps due to high mileage, or hard driving)
3. Unrepairable puncture (especially if kenna at the sidewall)
4. Because the current tyres are unbearable (noisy, too hard or not grippy enough etc)
5. Or, just because they want to try a new model of tyre for the fun of it.

An average user of the car clocks about 20,000km/year. Your tires are now 54,000km. Even if the car is young, the tires are definitely used for quite some times already. To me, since tires are the only thing in contact with the road, i would invest in good tires, because the concept is exactly like cheating on parking coupon or parking timing. u can escape many times, but u kenna 1 $30 fine, and all the cheating on the coupon goes down the drain. Likewise, get a good tire and u will have an ease of mind  :thumbsup:

Offline clarence

  • Max Torque (4400 rpm)
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,579
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2008, 11:24:30 AM »
For me, I make it a habit to replace my tyres every 2 years, even if there's still lots of thread left.

Tyres exposed to our local humid weather lose their suppleness and grip after continuously exposure to our unforgiving weather, plus sun and rain.

I rather buy the 'normal' tyres like Yokohama Aspec and replace them on a more frequent basis like 2 years, rather than buying an expensive Michelin or Pirelli and replacing them only when the thread is fully worn out. The costs comes to the same.

Offline iagree

  • High End (5000 rpm)
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,621
  • iagree!
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2008, 12:13:23 PM »
I am always worrying abt Stock Toyo Tyres, don't know how can tahan for NSHW driving. Quite heavily used.

Now my mileage is 23000+ - , my 4th service i done outside, not at TCM. So the front&back tyres have not swapped yet, when shld we swap? Will TCM do for us? I am thinking to service at TCM msia for my 5the service.

Regards.
sorry, i must agree because i don't know how to disagree. agreeeee only....

from
   -iagree, must agree

Offline clarence

  • Max Torque (4400 rpm)
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,579
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2008, 01:17:05 PM »
Tyre rotation should be ideally be done every 10,000km, so yours is long overdue.

The outer sides of your front tyres should be pretty worn out by now, if they have not been rotated since new.

Offline Jazz

  • Max Torque (4400 rpm)
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,097
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2008, 03:24:32 PM »
I am always worrying abt Stock Toyo Tyres, don't know how can tahan for NSHW driving. Quite heavily used.

Now my mileage is 23000+ - , my 4th service i done outside, not at TCM. So the front&back tyres have not swapped yet, when shld we swap? Will TCM do for us? I am thinking to service at TCM msia for my 5the service.

Regards.

You using mineral oil all the while?  :blink:

Offline Ying

  • Mid Zone (3000 rpm)
  • ***
  • Posts: 845
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 12:07:15 PM »
The 2 years TCM service package include tyre rotation and wheel alignment.

You better check the date on the stock Toyo Tyre. Mine was 4 year old when I took over a 2005 Latio but the thread was like new. Changed mine immediately after knowing the age of my tires. 2years plus tire still can use on city driving following the road speed limit and not tailgate. If $ not a problem then better change it.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2008, 12:08:46 PM by Ying »

Offline moochi

  • Cool Engine (0 rpm)
  • Posts: 46
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2008, 06:11:51 PM »
The 2 years TCM service package include tyre rotation and wheel alignment.

You better check the date on the stock Toyo Tyre. Mine was 4 year old when I took over a 2005 Latio but the thread was like new. Changed mine immediately after knowing the age of my tires. 2years plus tire still can use on city driving following the road speed limit and not tailgate. If $ not a problem then better change it.

I check my stock tyres, it's printed 0305, which means march 2005 rite?

Offline CustomGolf

  • Mid Zone (3000 rpm)
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,027
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2008, 06:23:20 PM »
I check my stock tyres, it's printed 0305, which means march 2005 rite?

Think it means 3rd week 2005. which means it's about 3.5 year old, anyway, my ride is 50k+ km less than 2.5 years old and I'm on my second set of Hankook Ventus V8s. You can't save on your tyres, it's has nothing to do with everyday driving, it's about when you need it.

Offline darrylker

  • Low End (2000 rpm)
  • **
  • Posts: 383
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2008, 10:28:36 PM »
Think it means 3rd week 2005. which means it's about 3.5 year old, anyway, my ride is 50k+ km less than 2.5 years old and I'm on my second set of Hankook Ventus V8s. You can't save on your tyres, it's has nothing to do with everyday driving, it's about when you need it.

Good tyres!  :thumbsup: How's your ride experience using the V8?

Offline CustomGolf

  • Mid Zone (3000 rpm)
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,027
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2008, 10:32:39 PM »
Good tyres!  :thumbsup: How's your ride experience using the V8?

Like the tyres, that's why I'm on the second set. I wanted to try the V12 but no size for me back then when I change and I can't wait anymore because the treads are almost gone.

Offline Carmodz

  • High End (5000 rpm)
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,733
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2008, 10:43:47 PM »
Like the tyres, that's why I'm on the second set. I wanted to try the V12 but no size for me back then when I change and I can't wait anymore because the treads are almost gone.

50K+ km....

2nd set of V8s....

No more thread left....

FIERCE LAH JEF!!

Offline CustomGolf

  • Mid Zone (3000 rpm)
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,027
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2008, 11:02:24 PM »
50K+ km....

2nd set of V8s....

No more thread left....

FIERCE LAH JEF!!

Brudder, not the 2nd set no thread, the first set lah. Not so fierce, only turn alot at HDB carpark when going up and down.

Offline iagree

  • High End (5000 rpm)
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,621
  • iagree!
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2008, 02:15:56 PM »
Tyre rotation should be ideally be done every 10,000km, so yours is long overdue.

The outer sides of your front tyres should be pretty worn out by now, if they have not been rotated since new.

snd scary leh.
then shld rotate in  my 28000 servicing... now 23500 :)
sorry, i must agree because i don't know how to disagree. agreeeee only....

from
   -iagree, must agree

Offline iagree

  • High End (5000 rpm)
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,621
  • iagree!
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2008, 02:17:25 PM »
You using mineral oil all the while?  :blink:

hi jazz

oh. 10k svc i let tcm use the free mineral oil to chg for me.

at 17k, i service my ride @ KL, using Mobil @ RM198. chg oil filter.

now 23500.

next servicing is 28000.

how?
sorry, i must agree because i don't know how to disagree. agreeeee only....

from
   -iagree, must agree

Offline Carmodz

  • High End (5000 rpm)
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,733
Re: Do I need new tires yet?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2008, 02:49:09 PM »
I check my stock tyres, it's printed 0305, which means march 2005 rite?

no brudder, it means third week of 2005, which = Baked in January 2005