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205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« on: August 06, 2008, 10:15:11 PM »
I was advised to take the 205/45/R16 by the tyre shop. Says will help to improve pickup and more stable compare to 205/50/R16.

Any owners on this profile as well? Is it too low???

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2008, 10:17:39 PM »
It will result in your speedometer reading being 4.9% faster than the actual reading.

http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6565.0

I doubt a wider tyre will improve pick up. Cornering and high speed stability will be better but at the expense of higher petrol consumption.

I noticed in the Flea Market section that many forumers are changing from their 205/55R16 rims and tyres back to 185/65R15 stock size.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2008, 10:20:03 PM by clarence »

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 10:59:43 PM »
try to get those with 205/50/R16 or 205/55/R16... If u can get tyre with ZR even better.. eg. 205/50/ZR16

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2008, 11:07:43 PM »
but any other problems with my current profile except the speedometer reading is out?

Or is it a strict no no?  However I do find the front wheel gap now is huge, my whole fist can go in. BTW offset of my 16 inch rims is +38.

How much usually will I lose if I trade in a one week old tyre back at the same shop?

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2008, 11:10:01 PM »
try to get those with 205/50/R16 or 205/55/R16... If u can get tyre with ZR even better.. eg. 205/50/ZR16

Hi Bro,

How is your 16inch rim with v8 hanhook tyre? Pick up better?

razr

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 11:11:38 PM »
Bro, I am not on V8s. My tyres are Goodyear LS2000 Hybrid II. Not bad.

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2008, 01:21:36 AM »
I was advised to take the 205/45/R16 by the tyre shop. Says will help to improve pickup and more stable compare to 205/50/R16.

Any owners on this profile as well? Is it too low???

I'm not certain that many forumers are downgrading back from 16 to 15" but what the tyre shops says is not entirely wrong. They are right when they said better pick up and more stable because the tyres are smaller so easier to turn. More stable because the lower the sidewall, usually the harder it is. on top of that, ur car's centre of gravity is lowered.

however, my guess is because that tyre shop doesnt have stock for 205 50 16 tyres, and hence may want to convince u to take the 205 45 16 tyres (this size is very common for the other jap brands e.g. Honda fit, lancer, vios etc)

if u would to ask me, i wont take that tyre size. try to stick within 2% from the original diameter OD

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2008, 01:24:55 AM »
How can pick up be better with a wider tyre (205 against 185) which has more contact & resistance with the road.

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 01:31:34 AM »
How can pick up be better with a wider tyre (205 against 185) which has more contact & resistance with the road.

Hi, is this a question? or is it your belief?

Need to clarify.  :smile:

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2008, 01:34:57 AM »
I am asking a question  ;D

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 09:13:16 AM »
Or is it a strict no no?  However I do find the front wheel gap now is huge, my whole fist can go in. BTW offset of my 16 inch rims is +38.

If you change to a 205/45/R16, the gap will become even bigger because the overall diameter of the wheel will decrease. Want to reduce gap, go lower your suspension.  :thumbsup:

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 09:19:47 AM »
Latio is already so low, and if you lower suspension, very likely you will hit kerb when parking, especially if you have fitted body kit too.

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 09:26:43 AM »
How can pick up be better with a wider tyre (205 against 185) which has more contact & resistance with the road.
Answered your own question.... Cannot.
Want to improve pickup, reduce rim size (weight for weight, this is better), reduce rim weight, reduce tire profile (use 185 instead of 205).
However, these are the downside:
Less braking friction on dry road, less cornering stability,
Advantages:
Apart from the above, improve FC, improve hydroplaning resistance, improve comfort.

Like everything, it is a balancing equation. Choosing tire that has stiff sidewalls will also improve cornering slightly but at the cost of comfort.
I drive slow and corner slow. FC and wet performance are top priority. So I stay strictly to 185/65/R15.

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 09:30:06 AM »
Latio is already so low, and if you lower suspension, very likely you will hit kerb when parking, especially if you have fitted body kit too.
Hahahahha yah... was going to say I am going to see him crawling over humps after that but deleted it at last minute. Saw this guy in a lowered civic crawling up a hump at and angle to avoid scrapping the centre of his front spoiler. Quite amusing to see people like them drive in areas with many humps.

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 09:50:25 AM »
I was advised to take the 205/45/R16 by the tyre shop. Says will help to improve pickup and more stable compare to 205/50/R16.


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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2008, 10:54:39 PM »
How about 17" rim for Latio sedan? Advisable?

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2008, 09:58:32 AM »
It is possible but at the expense of higher fuel consumption, and possibility of Tan Chong refusing to replace your shocks, for example, as they may attribute the faulty shocks to the upgraded rims & tyres.

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2008, 10:37:19 PM »
It is possible but at the expense of higher fuel consumption, and possibility of Tan Chong refusing to replace your shocks, for example, as they may attribute the faulty shocks to the upgraded rims & tyres.

Wah, so to change or not to change?   :confused1:

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2008, 01:33:21 AM »
for 16" best tyre profile wd be to get 195/55/R16 as u will not lose ur comfort yet better stability & to maintain ur fc ... Best of both worlds

if u notice 205/50/16 the tyre will pop out slightly if u see from the top of ur rim (birds eye view) position 

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Re: 205/45/R16 tyres too low profile?
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2008, 08:55:38 AM »
Actually stock tyre and rim profile is best combination as it gives good ride comfort.

Latio is a family car anyway.