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Offline clarence

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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2009, 02:11:47 PM »
i30 interior is spacious with a 2650mm wheelbase, but way too expensive at $54,000 for a Korean marque.

Its heavy 1,300kg body weight puts it in the same category as the heavyweight Suzuki APV.

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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2009, 02:20:47 PM »
Quote from: ralliart99 on January 06, 2009, 11:33:54 AM
yo guys, how abt the i30 leh ?

the FC is better than avante and pickup comparable to the avante 2.0

Basically, the i30 uses the same chasis, same 1.6L engine and 4-AT gearbox as the Avante, and it is heavier, so that should give you an indication of its pickup and FC.  ::) Note that the 2.0L Avante has already been phased out due to lack of demand.

Before buying my Latio hatchback, I did seriously considered the i30 as I like its 'European pedigree' a lot. It is a handsome looking, well built, spacious and comfortable car (based on test drive, ride comfort is comparable with the Latio hatch) but the reason why I went for the Nissan was because the i30 has the disadvantages of being higher priced, lower OMV, lower resale value (my previous ride was a Hyundai so I know), and KMC's aftersales service really puts me off. A real pity, if the local agent is better, I may have gone for it as it is a good car.

Quote from: clarence on January 06, 2009, 02:11:47 PM
i30 interior is spacious with a 2650mm wheelbase, but way too expensive at $54,000 for a Korean marque.

Its heavy 1,300kg body weight puts it in the same category as the heavyweight Suzuki APV.

Agree completely with your assessment but while it is indeed slightly underpowered and has poor FC (if you read the Hyundai forums, nobody who own the i30 dares to post their FC ;D ), it really is a nice car with a very German interior, you have to test drive one to find out.
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2009, 03:38:04 PM »
Talking about space, you guys have forgotten the once popular pre FL toyota altis. Big legroom and wide, and a huge boot space. Not sure about the FL version. Yes, it is also FC friendly, can get around 14km/l.
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2009, 04:38:11 PM »
New Altis not is as economical as the previous model due to its heavy 1255kg body, which is almost 100kg heavier than the Sylphy.

Simple common sense tells you that a 1.6l  engine mated to a heavy body at almost 1.3 tonnes is detrimental to fuel economy 

The new Altis also uses an outdated 9 yr old VVTi engine first seen in the 9th Generation Year 2000 Corolla. Toyota has launched the new Dual VVTi engine, supposingly more powerful and economical, but its a pity this latest engine is not used in models selling in S'pore. 

You will notice that the latest Altis is not selling as well as the previous model. Not as many on the road as when the previous model was launched.
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2009, 04:42:32 PM »
Quote from: clarence on January 06, 2009, 04:38:11 PM

The new Altis also uses an outdated 9 yr old VVTi engine first seen in the 9th Generation Year 2000 Corolla. Toyota has launched the new Dual VVTi engine, supposingly more powerful and economical, but its a pity this latest engine is not used in models selling in S'pore. 


Yup, this is the reason why i decided NOT to buy the Altis when i was shopping for my car... i figured no point paying so much money for an old engine. Which makes the new Altis basically just a facelift...
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2009, 04:45:35 PM »
Quote from: Zippy on January 06, 2009, 04:42:32 PM
Yup, this is the reason why i decided NOT to buy the Altis when i was shopping for my car... i figured no point paying so much money for an old engine. Which makes the new Altis basically just a facelift...

It's also not exactly a good deal at $60,000.
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2009, 04:54:56 PM »
When i was shopping for my car in mid 2008, the Altis was 65k!!! Which is more than 10k more than my Latio! Lagi not a good deal... geez.... think Borneo was still kooning then... :out:
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2009, 05:01:53 PM »
Altis is still overpriced at $60K for a Thai assembled product where the labour and material costs are just a fraction of a Japanese assembled car.

The Vios is also overpriced at Latio basic sedan price category.

Would you pay the same money for a Thai assembled automobile using an outdated 9 yr old engine and replica of an old model body (Toyota Belta) first launched 3 yrs ago in Japan?

I think most of us got Latio as it is one of the more reasonably priced & relatively new model 100% Japan assembled car with generous cabin and boot space which comes with keyless entry normally found in top end higher engine capacity models.
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2009, 08:38:38 PM »
Quote from: Zippy on January 06, 2009, 04:42:32 PM
Yup, this is the reason why i decided NOT to buy the Altis when i was shopping for my car... i figured no point paying so much money for an old engine. Which makes the new Altis basically just a facelift...

the  higher price is used pure for the NEW LOOKS only./... the engine is the the same as the old version leh...

no improvement

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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2009, 01:26:40 AM »
Quote from: limck007 on January 06, 2009, 08:38:38 PM
the  higher price is used pure for the NEW LOOKS only./... the engine is the the same as the old version leh...

no improvement

Not just the engine... the suspension system and chassis are also still the same. So, expect the same problems with the suspension, which will 'sag' and need replacement every now and then, as what I notice from friends and relatives driving the old Altis. I think the JDM Axio, while having an uglier interior, is still the better engineered car with better FC too.
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2009, 07:57:48 AM »
Quote from: tao on January 07, 2009, 01:26:40 AM
Not just the engine... the suspension system and chassis are also still the same. So, expect the same problems with the suspension, which will 'sag' and need replacement every now and then, as what I notice from friends and relatives driving the old Altis. I think the JDM Axio, while having an uglier interior, is still the better engineered car with better FC too.

I'm actually quite surprise that the suspension system of the altis cmi, cause my previous pre FL vios had one of the best suspension that I felt. In fact, one of the workshop guy thought that I had changed it. I know that toyota is also well known for its suspension.

Probably, toyota is making out of more money from us, while the quality keeps droping. I'm glad that I did not 'upgrade' to altis while shopping for my next car. My friend's altis also looks and feels quite lok after only 2 years.
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2009, 09:03:23 AM »
Quote from: tao on January 07, 2009, 01:26:40 AM
Not just the engine... the suspension system and chassis are also still the same. So, expect the same problems with the suspension, which will 'sag' and need replacement every now and then, as what I notice from friends and relatives driving the old Altis. I think the JDM Axio, while having an uglier interior, is still the better engineered car with better FC too.

Morning tao,

Agree with you regarding the chassic part, it may due to tomyum assembly plus material manufactured, I also heard of chassic body fall apart or corrosion. But I have to agree with Vortex regarding the suspension, as far as I know, Toyota has or 1 of the best suspension for their cars.
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Re: What other cars have comparable cabin space as latio?
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2009, 10:04:11 PM »
Agree with vortex and jazz, my pre FL vios suspension feels better than my current Latio.

For legroom and spaciousness, I think the JDM Toyota Allion is even better than Latio.  It is 1.5L and advertised FC 18 km/l.  The only disadvantage is the high price.  Its 10k more expensive than the Latio.  Latio is comparable in many areas, except maybe the FC, that's why I choose the Latio in the end.

On a side note, I was actually checking out the Axio and the SE suggested checking out the Allion. I was blown away by how much better it is compared to the Axio.
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