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Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« on: January 07, 2009, 09:43:02 PM »
Sol's Guide for improving your FC

I've noticed there has been a lot of questions and advice regarding FC in many threads, so I've decided to create a guide for improving your FC. Most techniques and advice were taken from cleanmpg.com, which is a superb forum for saving fuel. The techniques I list here should be more suited for Singaporean cars and driving patterns. I drive a 4AT Latio, but I'll also list down stuff or techniques that apply to CVT as well. 

Take note that the techniques mentioned in this guide has all been tried and tested by me. If you want to use them, by all means, go ahead! However, I will not be responsible for any mishaps, accidents or damage caused to you or others. Always drive safely and responsibly.

Ok, enough talking. On with the guide!

Basic things: stuff even my grandma can do!

Cleaning out your junk
The simplest thing you can do is to remove unwanted stuff in your boot. Golf clubs? Tennis rackets? Luggage? Time to take them all out. Every little thing in your boot means extra petrol to move them along with your car. Those with a tire patching tool might even consider taking out the spare tyre. How many of you guys know how to change it anyway?  :bleh:

Pump up your tires
Higher tire pressure means less rolling resistance. This means that it takes less energy(petrol) to move the car. Also, your car will be able to glide longer. Its perfectly safe to pump up to max sidewall. Max sidewall pressure is the tyre pressure stated on the wall of your tyre. Most tires run at 44psi, which is roughly 300kPa. I've been running them at max sidewall for 3 months now, and its perfectly fine. Modern tires have steel belts running through them, so it won't suffer from the center-balding effect like old tires do. Again, its up to you. If you don't feel comfortable with such high pressures, go with around 250kPa.

Do your maintenance
Send your car in for regular checkups. Dirty engine oil, uneven alignment, faulty tires, offtuned engine, all these can lead to a decrease in your FC. Try to use thinner oil if possible, w30 is just nice. Sometimes after servicing, the technicians will reset your tire pressure back to 200kPa. Make sure you set them back up.

Your driving style: drive smart!

Slowing down
You can either zoom zoom all the way and pay a lot for petrol, or you can drive smartly and smile at your next top-up. The bottom line is, choose either speed or fuel efficiency. The key thing here is wind resistance. Wind resistance increases very fast as you approach higher speeds. Anybody wondered why you get terrible FC on NSH even though you drive 100% highway? Thats probably because you drive at 150km/h. In Singapore, try to keep below 100km/h. Anything more than that, and you'll be paying a lot more for every km you travel. Besides, with high speed comes high constant rpm, and its well known that that kills FC.

Drive without brakes
No, I'm not telling you to cut your brake lines. Just pretend you drive without them. Braking means slowing down the car and turning its momentum into heat(which is useless). If you're not going to stop soon or you can take a turn at your current speed, why brake? One example on downslopes on expressway. I've seen many cars applying brakes even though there's no car in front. This is a waste of petrol. Anyone knows the round part of the expressway where you turn into KJE from BKE? Latio can take that turn at 80km/h no problem. Don't throw petrol out of the window with unnecessary braking.

Look in advance
There's no point pumping more petrol into the engine and speed up when you are going to stop in 5 seconds. Many drivers tend to accelerate up to the last moment and brake hard at the lights. Always look ahead for the traffic lights. If they are red or you know they are turning red soon, let go of the accelerator and let the car glide to stop. If you are above 40km/h, engine braking will kick in. This means that no petrol is injected into the engine, instead, the engine is kept running by the car's momentum. You will feel a jerk when the injection kicks in again. This can save a lot of fuel.

Moving off
Many drivers are under the misconception that stepping on the accelerator like it's made of glass is good. Wrong! One characteristic of car engines is that they burn the fuel most efficiently at low rpm and high throttle. Yes, it's hard to do it in an auto car, since the TCU decides for you. What you can do is accelerate moderately. Keep at around 2k to 2.2k rpm. Anything higher and you waste energy overcoming the friction in your engine. For CVT owners, I've read that locking rpm at 2k all the way is the way to go, but I can't personally confirm this.

Thats it for now! Part 2 will feature more advance techniques, so stay tuned(you and your car).
Any comments are very much welcome, thanks!

« Last Edit: January 07, 2009, 10:37:51 PM by SoL »

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2009, 09:44:20 PM »
Reserved for part 2!

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2009, 09:45:18 PM »
One more post in case I need to add something!

I'm longwinded, I know. :bleh:

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 10:02:29 PM »
One more post in case I need to add something!

I'm longwinded, I know. :bleh:

How much pressure should we compensate when we pump tire when it is hot? (Drove from west to east).  :smile:

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 10:21:39 PM »
I would say around 3-5 more psi. Thats about 30 more kPa. Don't worry, your tire won't blow up la hehe.

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2009, 10:26:00 PM »
I would say around 3-5 more psi. Thats about 30 more kPa. Don't worry, your tire won't blow up la hehe.

Exactly this is my worry. I look around the side wall and can't find the max pressure rating....
I have been increasing my tire pressure steadily every half tank, from the spec recommendation of 230 front, 210 back to 260 front, 240 back (pump air when hot)....

Only achieve best 270km for the last half tank (~19 litres) so far....

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2009, 10:34:26 PM »
Exactly this is my worry. I look around the side wall and can't find the max pressure rating....
I have been increasing my tire pressure steadily every half tank, from the spec recommendation of 230 front, 210 back to 260 front, 240 back (pump air when hot)....

Only achieve best 270km for the last half tank (~19 litres) so far....

Really can't find? They should say something like max load of "blah blah blah" under 44 psi, or something like that. Maybe the words are very small, mine are.

Anyway, tire pressure is only a small factor. Whats more important is your driving style. Try to follow some techniques I listed and see if there's any improvement!

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2009, 10:39:02 PM »
i usually pick up at 3krpm and cruise at around 90 to 100 km/h and get 12km/L. i just dun like the idea of slow pickup although i like to have better FC. driving 4AT here btw. have tried to keep my rpm below 2k for normal road as advsed by the bros here but my leg gets itchy after that. haha...

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 10:46:58 PM »
i usually pick up at 3krpm and cruise at around 90 to 100 km/h and get 12km/L. i just dun like the idea of slow pickup although i like to have better FC. driving 4AT here btw. have tried to keep my rpm below 2k for normal road as advsed by the bros here but my leg gets itchy after that. haha...

The difference between 3k rpm and 2k rpm is at most 10sec time difference bah? Not that much of a difference.
I normally keep to left or middle lane and accelerate. 2k rpm is enough, and when I get to cruising speed than I overtake heehee.

I used to cannot tahan slow pickup, but nowadays I'm used to it le. Going at 3k rpm just feels uneasy for me. I take beating my FC record as some sort of a challenge. =]

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 10:54:32 PM »
Really can't find? They should say something like max load of "blah blah blah" under 44 psi, or something like that. Maybe the words are very small, mine are.

Anyway, tire pressure is only a small factor. Whats more important is your driving style. Try to follow some techniques I listed and see if there's any improvement!

I think i will take a careful look again when i am free. Probably this sat if i am washing my car. Nowadays i tried to rev until 2k while accelerating from stationary. Sometimes not possible coz the traffic condition doesn't allow to...

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 10:55:38 PM »
The difference between 3k rpm and 2k rpm is at most 10sec time difference bah? Not that much of a difference.
I normally keep to left or middle lane and accelerate. 2k rpm is enough, and when I get to cruising speed than I overtake heehee.

I used to cannot tahan slow pickup, but nowadays I'm used to it le. Going at 3k rpm just feels uneasy for me. I take beating my FC record as some sort of a challenge. =]

are you driving CVT or 4AT?

when i used to drive my CVT lancer, i pick up at ~2.2krpm and gets "ok" pickup and FC is ~12km/L
now i drive my 4AT latio, i pick up at 3krpm and get much better pick up and FC is constant 12KM/L

btw even i pick up my lancer at 3krpm, power wise still not as good as the latio..

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2009, 06:12:51 PM »
I'm a 4AT.

No matter what, going off at 2.5k rpm is definitely gonna get u much better mileage than 3k rpm. I'm guessing around 14km/l for you just by that alone.

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2009, 08:18:35 PM »
I'm a 4AT.

No matter what, going off at 2.5k rpm is definitely gonna get u much better mileage than 3k rpm. I'm guessing around 14km/l for you just by that alone.

i'm gonna prove you wrong cos i used to be light footed when running in my engine but stll get 12km/l although i hope you're right. :)

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 12:09:24 AM »
i'm gonna prove you wrong cos i used to be light footed when running in my engine but stll get 12km/l although i hope you're right. :)

Running in will definitely give you lower FC, because of mineral oil, new engine etc etc. What is your mileage now? I'm not too sure for CVT, but accelerating at 2k should give better FC than 3k. Lightfooted, which is accelerating <2k rpm is not advised too.

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 12:59:30 AM »
The CVT Latio can accelerate to 60km/h at 1200rpm :-). When the light turns green, apply gentle pressure and let the engine rise smoothly to 1500rpm. Then slowly ease back a touch to encourage the CVT to a higher ratio. Once you get down to 1200rpm, keep steady pressure on the pedal and watch the speed climb to 60km/h. Of course, you have to be a little patient. When you reach 60km/h at 1200rpm, you are at max gear ratio, and you can increase pedal pressure *gently* to get up to your desired speed while keeping the highest gear ratio.

This is much easier to do with the A/C off. Takes about 18s to accelerate to 60km/h from a standing start on level ground.

The best way to find out if this technique works better than a high rpm take off is to grab an FL Latio with the built in FC meter. Set a fixed route and test both methods several times with the FC meter set to average mode. It would be great if someone can do this and post the data.

It would also be great if someone could post FC .vs steady state cruise speed with and without A/C, windows up. Then we can find the sweet spot and keep our accelerators pegged at that spot.

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Re: Sol's Guide for improving your FC
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2009, 02:12:58 PM »
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