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Tyres for Latio
« on: July 25, 2009, 08:03:53 PM »
I just change my tyres and like to share experience with all.

I researched and found that there are many types of tyres and even with the same brand and make each place offers different price. (A diff of $5 per tyre is $20 for 4)

Latio is 185 65R15.... if the shop dun;t have they will tell you take 195 60R15... also the same but a bit more expensive.... I checked...
- manual and Tan Chong ---- conclusion: yes you can take but your FC will increase and your ride will not be so comfortable. Also, the gear ratio for autocar are optismed  for 185 65R15, so all will be out....

So please be carefullllll dun;t get con....

btw, I installed Hankook tyres - best tyres in Korea (I went there and all were driving Hankook).
It is cheap at $75 per pc compared to Toyo $95, BStone or Yoko $110 to $120....

Now it is very very quite....

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2009, 10:59:47 PM »
if  AT gear ratio was optimized for 185 65R15, how about CVT? optimised for any size :confused1: :confused1:

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2009, 11:07:56 PM »
i think most of us change rims n tyres nobody check about this small thing
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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2009, 12:58:56 AM »
I just change my tyres and like to share experience with all.

I researched and found that there are many types of tyres and even with the same brand and make each place offers different price. (A diff of $5 per tyre is $20 for 4)

Latio is 185 65R15.... if the shop dun;t have they will tell you take 195 60R15... also the same but a bit more expensive.... I checked...
- manual and Tan Chong ---- conclusion: yes you can take but your FC will increase and your ride will not be so comfortable. Also, the gear ratio for autocar are optismed  for 185 65R15, so all will be out....

So please be carefullllll dun;t get con....

btw, I installed Hankook tyres - best tyres in Korea (I went there and all were driving Hankook).
It is cheap at $75 per pc compared to Toyo $95, BStone or Yoko $110 to $120....

Now it is very very quite....

difference of $20 u can get more road holding(more safety). but i think for ur case the fc is more important than the road holding... so y not ask those on altis (185/70/R14) to change their tyres n rims with u then ur comfort and fc will greatly increase since u rather save on $5 bcos afraid of fc suffer... those who know abt car will tell u that tyres are the most important part of the car. u can save on anything but tyres. cos they are the only point of contact with the road.. pls do not mislead people that they are being CON to change their tyres to 195/60/R15 or 205/50/R16 or  215/45/R17.... Pls if u have time go to tyre shop to ask them y need to upsize tyres and rims and see what they say..
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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2009, 01:57:34 AM »
difference of $20 u can get more road holding(more safety). but i think for ur case the fc is more important than the road holding... so y not ask those on altis (185/70/R14) to change their tyres n rims with u then ur comfort and fc will greatly increase since u rather save on $5 bcos afraid of fc suffer... those who know abt car will tell u that tyres are the most important part of the car. u can save on anything but tyres. cos they are the only point of contact with the road.. pls do not mislead people that they are being CON to change their tyres to 195/60/R15 or 205/50/R16 or  215/45/R17.... Pls if u have time go to tyre shop to ask them y need to upsize tyres and rims and see what they say..


Everyone will have their own thoughts on tyres.

Having changed several sets of tyres over several cars, my observation is as follows:

1) Fuel consumption increases with broader tyres

2) Higher tendency to get kerb rash with lower profile tyres

3) More bumpy ride with lower profile tyres

4) Lower profile and broadewr tyres are more expensive to purchase

5) Stock tyre sizes, most of which come in '185' on 15 inch rims are sufficient for Singapore's speed limit, and Malaysia's North South Highway speed limit, unless you intend to take an aggressive cornering and subject your life and other road users and pedestrains' lives to danger.

6) Stock tyre sizes, with a broader tyre height, offer better overall comfort

No matter how broad your tyres are, Latio with high CG & height does not help much and all you need is a patch of oil on the road to get your car spinning or turning turtle


* By the way, 195/60R15 on stock Latio rims will result in tyres bulging out of the rims. Just look at the 1.5l Sylphy.

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2009, 02:01:09 AM »

btw, I installed Hankook tyres - best tyres in Korea (I went there and all were driving Hankook).
It is cheap at $75 per pc compared to Toyo $95, BStone or Yoko $110 to $120....
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What is the Hankook tyre model that you changed to? Which shop?

$75 is an excellent deal!

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2009, 11:45:58 AM »
i also just installed hankook K415 195 60 r 15 yesterday - my first tyre change actually.

my stock tyre is only 27k (1yr 8mth) but i activated ABS twice this week because of the wet weather nowadays. :nonod:

service at toh guan is excellent - 30 min nia even though i have somebody in front of me. The new tyre are much much better than stock, although havent really try on rainy days yet but at least when i turn in carpark dun have the damn screeching sound!

overall money is well spent and i feel safer already. :thumbsup:

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2009, 12:19:13 PM »
difference of $20 u can get more road holding(more safety). but i think for ur case the fc is more important than the road holding... so y not ask those on altis (185/70/R14) to change their tyres n rims with u then ur comfort and fc will greatly increase since u rather save on $5 bcos afraid of fc suffer... those who know abt car will tell u that tyres are the most important part of the car. u can save on anything but tyres. cos they are the only point of contact with the road.. pls do not mislead people that they are being CON to change their tyres to 195/60/R15 or 205/50/R16 or  215/45/R17.... Pls if u have time go to tyre shop to ask them y need to upsize tyres and rims and see what they say..

I think you are getting it all wrong....

The tyre shops will want you to upsize cos they can charged more... and hence they will tell you all the reasons to do that... reasons that you have just quoted above.

Look into your car manual - if up sizing is recommended ?
Latio manual did not indicate... the people that know BEST are not the one that sell the tyres but the ones that make the car... so refer to your manual...


btw... I only share my experience - everyone have their own way of doing up the car (or down the car as the case maybe).
I believe in the one that make the car - their specs.... and I would not want to deviate from it.... that's all

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2009, 12:20:59 PM »
i also just installed hankook K415 195 60 r 15 yesterday - my first tyre change actually.

my stock tyre is only 27k (1yr 8mth) but i activated ABS twice this week because of the wet weather nowadays. :nonod:

service at toh guan is excellent - 30 min nia even though i have somebody in front of me. The new tyre are much much better than stock, although havent really try on rainy days yet but at least when i turn in carpark dun have the damn screeching sound!

overall money is well spent and i feel safer already. :thumbsup:


Hankook is good so far... but your profile is not the recommended profile by the manual / mfg  185 85 R15... it would be interesting to record and note the FC.... let us know ok.

thanks

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2009, 12:23:56 PM »

What is the Hankook tyre model that you changed to? Which shop?

$75 is an excellent deal!

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185 85 R15 at Hurry Tyre at Serene center Bt Timah road.
The agenet for Hankook got no stock and insist that 195 60 R15 can fit, lucky I checked the manual and the engineers at TC to verify,......

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2009, 12:25:37 PM »

Everyone will have their own thoughts on tyres.

Having changed several sets of tyres over several cars, my observation is as follows:

1) Fuel consumption increases with broader tyres

2) Higher tendency to get kerb rash with lower profile tyres

3) More bumpy ride with lower profile tyres

4) Lower profile and broadewr tyres are more expensive to purchase

5) Stock tyre sizes, most of which come in '185' on 15 inch rims are sufficient for Singapore's speed limit, and Malaysia's North South Highway speed limit, unless you intend to take an aggressive cornering and subject your life and other road users and pedestrains' lives to danger.

6) Stock tyre sizes, with a broader tyre height, offer better overall comfort

No matter how broad your tyres are, Latio with high CG & height does not help much and all you need is a patch of oil on the road to get your car spinning or turning turtle


* By the way, 195/60R15 on stock Latio rims will result in tyres bulging out of the rims. Just look at the 1.5l Sylphy.


i dont quite agree with point 2 and 5. kerb rash comes from driver's skills. the reason why you dont see it on higher profile tires is because the tires absorb the rash which will in turn cause the tire to get a little out of shape if you keep on hitting the kerb.

as for point 5, you meaning changing to broader tires are not necessary if i am sticking to all speed limits?

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2009, 12:27:29 PM »
I think you are getting it all wrong....

The tyre shops will want you to upsize cos they can charged more... and hence they will tell you all the reasons to do that... reasons that you have just quoted above.

Look into your car manual - if up sizing is recommended ?
Latio manual did not indicate... the people that know BEST are not the one that sell the tyres but the ones that make the car... so refer to your manual...


btw... I only share my experience - everyone have their own way of doing up the car (or down the car as the case maybe).
I believe in the one that make the car - their specs.... and I would not want to deviate from it.... that's all



chill. not everyone is as kiasi or likes to drive it according to manual like you.

and to be pretty honest, the manual may be recommended for JDM.

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2009, 01:57:12 PM »
i dont quite agree with point 2 and 5. kerb rash comes from driver's skills. the reason why you dont see it on higher profile tires is because the tires absorb the rash which will in turn cause the tire to get a little out of shape if you keep on hitting the kerb.

as for point 5, you meaning changing to broader tires are not necessary if i am sticking to all speed limits?

hmm, just some reasoning,

2) I agree it is all about the driver skill, but lower profile tyre did not absorb the rash (as what you type) means "Higher tendency to get kerb rash with lower profile tyres ", with same driver.

5) I guess you dont agree with clarence's statement that implies all those with broader tyre will drive aggressive and put passager in danger, I dun agree too. It is the driver, with stock tyre picanto QQ also can turn turtle right? our stock is ok for normal driving, but better tyre (may be broader) does have its advantage over stock. We dont change it is ok but better dun disturb other people. Diff car also have diff size of stock tyre right? 

diff people mod for diff reason, some go for look, some go for speed, some go for efficiency (FC etc) and some go for sound. It is all up to the person, we should learn to accept others and use this forum to learn how to enjoy your latio your ways. peace.

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2009, 05:11:33 PM »

Everyone will have their own thoughts on tyres.

Having changed several sets of tyres over several cars, my observation is as follows:

1) Fuel consumption increases with broader tyres

2) Higher tendency to get kerb rash with lower profile tyres

3) More bumpy ride with lower profile tyres

4) Lower profile and broadewr tyres are more expensive to purchase

5) Stock tyre sizes, most of which come in '185' on 15 inch rims are sufficient for Singapore's speed limit, and Malaysia's North South Highway speed limit, unless you intend to take an aggressive cornering and subject your life and other road users and pedestrains' lives to danger.

6) Stock tyre sizes, with a broader tyre height, offer better overall comfort

No matter how broad your tyres are, Latio with high CG & height does not help much and all you need is a patch of oil on the road to get your car spinning or turning turtle


* By the way, 195/60R15 on stock Latio rims will result in tyres bulging out of the rims. Just look at the 1.5l Sylphy.


Not really, I am using 195/60R15 and did not notice any typres bulging out of the rims.

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2009, 08:37:57 PM »
hmm, just some reasoning,

2) I agree it is all about the driver skill, but lower profile tyre did not absorb the rash (as what you type) means "Higher tendency to get kerb rash with lower profile tyres ", with same driver.

5) I guess you dont agree with clarence's statement that implies all those with broader tyre will drive aggressive and put passager in danger, I dun agree too. It is the driver, with stock tyre picanto QQ also can turn turtle right? our stock is ok for normal driving, but better tyre (may be broader) does have its advantage over stock. We dont change it is ok but better dun disturb other people. Diff car also have diff size of stock tyre right? 

diff people mod for diff reason, some go for look, some go for speed, some go for efficiency (FC etc) and some go for sound. It is all up to the person, we should learn to accept others and use this forum to learn how to enjoy your latio your ways. peace.

Hi Bro Ying,

Think both you and Bro vypez saying the same thing, low profile will buah rim while higher profile will have the tendency to buah tyre first. So if the driver skill is there, doesn't really matter high or low profile.  :D

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2009, 09:01:46 PM »

chill. not everyone is as kiasi or likes to drive it according to manual like you.

and to be pretty honest, the manual may be recommended for JDM.

Wah,,,  ask him to chill, and the next statemen you call him kia si..

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2009, 09:09:15 PM »
One thing I'm sticking to 185, is 185 cuts thru water puddle better than wider tyre. i.e. less tendency for aquaplaning.

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2009, 09:13:31 PM »
Wah,,,  ask him to chill, and the next statemen you call him kia si..


hehe, maybe wrong choice of words. better choice of words should be chill, not everyone so cool and relaxed.. for me, i got need for speed.

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2009, 09:49:26 PM »

Latio is 185 65R15.... if the shop dun;t have they will tell you take 195 60R15... also the same but a bit more expensive.... I checked...
- manual and Tan Chong ---- conclusion: yes you can take but your FC will increase and your ride will not be so comfortable. Also, the gear ratio for autocar are optismed  for 185 65R15, so all will be out....


Bro, which page of the manual says if change to 195 60 the FC will increase and will not be so comfortable? Can share?

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Re: Tyres for Latio
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2009, 11:10:06 PM »
Bro, which page of the manual says if change to 195 60 the FC will increase and will not be so comfortable? Can share?

he is saying that the manual says that latio on 185/65/R15 will have a very comfortable ride and good fc... obviously he never heard people who change from 185/65/R15 to 205/50/R16 with better fc....