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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: hopeless2212 on October 27, 2006, 05:16:36 PM
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Hi bro and sis.. found this article on cvt..
CVT Benefits and Test Drives
Continuously variable transmissions are becoming more popular for good reason. They boast several advantages that make them appealing both to drivers and to environmentalists. The table below describes some of the key features and benefits of CVTs.
Advantages of CVTs
Feature : Constant, stepless acceleration from a complete stop to cruising speed
Benefit : Eliminates "shift shock" -- makes for a smoother ride
Feature : Works to keep the car in its optimum power range regardless of how fast the car is traveling
Benefit : Improved fuel efficiency
Feature : Responds better to changing conditions, such as changes in throttle and speed
Benefit : Eliminates gear hunting as a car decelerates, especially going up a hill
Feature : Less power loss in a CVT than a typical automatic transmission
Benefit : Better acceleration
Feature : Better control of a gasoline engine's speed range
Benefit : Better control over emissions
Feature : Can incorporate automated versions of mechanical clutches
Benefit : Replace inefficient fluid torque converters
Cars with CVTs have been common in Europe for years. But it's taken a while for the technology to gain a foothold in the United States. The first production automobile to offer a CVT in the United States was the Subaru Justy.
Sold between 1989 and 1993, the Justy never attracted the attention of American drivers. So what's different about newer CVT-based cars -- cars like the Saturn Vue, the Audi A4 and A6, the Nissan Murano and the Honda Insight? The best way to answer that question is to take one of these cars for a "test drive." The animation below, which compares the acceleration of a car with a CVT to one without, gives you a good feel for the experience.
(sorry.. cannot download pics) :(
When you step on the gas pedal of a car with a continuously variable transmission, you notice the difference immediately. The engine revs up toward the rpms at which it produces the most power, and then it stays there. But the car doesn't react immediately. Then, a moment later, the transmission kicks in, accelerating the car slowly, steadily and without any shifts. In theory, a car with a CVT should reach 60 mph (100 km/hr) 25-percent faster than the same car with the same engine and a manual transmission [ref]. That's because the CVT converts every point on the engine's operating curve to a corresponding point on its own operating curve.
If you look at the power output curve for the car without a CVT, you can see this to be true. Notice that the tachometer in this situation shows the engine revving up and down with each gear change, which is recorded as a spike in the power output curve (and which the driver feels as a jolt).
CVTs are equally efficient on hills. There is no "gear hunting," because the CVT cycles steplessly down to a gear ratio appropriate for the driving conditions. A conventional automatic transmission shifts back and forth trying to find the right gear, which is far less efficient.
With all of their advantages, CVTs do have some shortcomings. In the United States, they are still trying to overcome an image problem. The Subaru Justy, for example, was known as a gutless micro-car. Traditionally, belt-drive CVTs were limited in the amount of torque they could handle and were larger and heavier than their automatic and manual counterparts. Technological advances have put CVTs in the realm of their competition -- the Nissan Murano's CVT can handle its 3.5-liter, 245-horsepower V6 engine -- but first impressions are hard to overcome.
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Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTX_iYW5x10
& this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rekeSMVhoeE
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hmm. Somehow I don't really feel it's true, dunno about you guys, but cvt seems to feel abit sluggish to me compared to 4at. Cvt stock response vs 4at stock response seems different. also, it feels pretty weak to me on a hill. maybe it's really just me..
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Hi,
Maybe its due to perception, could it be you feel like that cause when on the CVT, the engine revs are constant where a 4AT would be rising and that would translate to the perception that its going faster? When I'm driving on beach rd and taking the ECP, there's a steep hill to get on the ECP and with the CVT its really able to reach the top faster although it sounds like the car is dragging but the Speedo is rising as i'm driving up . Not trying to argue bro, just wanted to share my tots as I too initially tot my car is dragging along but then realised... hey... I'm passing alot of cars... ;D
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I have drove AT before ... my bro older car and the current Nissan CVT + older Lancer CVT. Personally, I feel the effect faster AT pickup is due to the gear change (due to AT using planetary gearing) The effect of sudden dropped of speed and sudden pickup of the speed makes one think that it is faster. But if you observe the meter properly, it does mean it pick up the speed faster.
As for CVT, in Lancer implementation, there is a rubber band feeling, i.e. step on accelerator pad and it takes a while to translate into the actual pickup thus the sluggish. Nissan Implementation is slightly better in term of that and minimizing the rubber band effect. As for the rubber band effect, I do wonder if it is the doing of the ECU?
For me, the CVT pickup is good and the speedo in fact rising up pretty fast except you dont feel the surge feel of the ATs.
Unless you do a test - stock at vs cvt. Else you wouldnt know which is better.
Moreover... the design of the CVT suppose to be longer lasting than a AT type.
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Hi,
Maybe its due to perception, could it be you feel like that cause when on the CVT, the engine revs are constant where a 4AT would be rising and that would translate to the perception that its going faster? When I'm driving on beach rd and taking the ECP, there's a steep hill to get on the ECP and with the CVT its really able to reach the top faster although it sounds like the car is dragging but the Speedo is rising as i'm driving up . Not trying to argue bro, just wanted to share my tots as I too initially tot my car is dragging along but then realised... hey... I'm passing alot of cars... ;D
Hi bro,
no worries, i'm not the least bit offended. but Cvt really does feel this way. I do go that same road often, as my office is in golden mile complex, however, i've never driven 4at on that slope so I really can't compare.
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An interesting article on the Nissan CVT
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/060809.htm
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See our CVT in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABaJidk9SJA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABaJidk9SJA)
Have faith in our CVT. It's the future mode of transmission...
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Not too sure about CVT, I must agree it feels like stretching a rubber band. I guess if we are impatient to stretch it fast, it will breakdown faster!! Hahaha ...
Anyway, think CVT will be good if the power of the engine is high and thus it will pick up faster.
I still prefer the feel of the 4AT than the CVT - my preference.
Depending on the construction of the CVT. Newer generation of CVT are using steel belt and more advance technique/technology to make it more robust.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/cvt.htm
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This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTX_iYW5x10 is powerful.
I just got my Latio Premium CVT ride last Saturday.
When I press on the accelerator, I can feel the "power" to accelerate...
I am not sure abt 4AT coz i don't have a 4AT to compare...
I am still unsure how to handle my ride yet...
It's easy to hit 2500rmp when i start to drive the car. After that I try to maintain the rpm at 2k and 80km/h.
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Hi Bros & sis there, help needed on when to change the CVT transmission fluid? Not sure as just got my latio premium recently, my old manual car required to change transmission fluid after every 40,000KM drive. Thanks :confused1:
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Autotransmission or CVT fluid is scheduled to be changed every 40,000km, but an earlier fluid change does no harm and is beneficial.
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Noted! TQ :smile:
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Autotransmission or CVT fluid is scheduled to be changed every 40,000km, but an earlier fluid change does no harm and is beneficial.
u sounds soo confident and soo knowledgeable in car technical terms in all ur posts like a Mr know it all :thumbsup:
LatioR u can check the tan chong webby below which will show u the correct cvt oil change interval which is 60,000km or 3years....
http://www.nissan.com.sg/service/pkg_psg.cfm
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u sounds soo confident and soo knowledgeable in car technical terms in all ur posts like a Mr know it all :thumbsup:
LatioR u can check the tan chong webby below which will show u the correct cvt oil change interval which is 60,000km or 3years....
http://www.nissan.com.sg/service/pkg_psg.cfm
previous car oso a cvt... i wnt want to wait till 60,000km for my latio cvt then change the CVT oil... btw 30,000-40,000 is a good time to change it... dnt think it will be expensive if we does it outside Tan Chong off the standard service plan... tat is just me :)
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previous car oso a cvt... i wnt want to wait till 60,000km for my latio cvt then change the CVT oil... btw 30,000-40,000 is a good time to change it... dnt think it will be expensive if we does it outside Tan Chong off the standard service plan... tat is just me :)
Why not every 10,000 change since not expensive? That would be even better right? gear more smoother and will convince urself ur gearbox will last longer mar right? than normal sythethic engine oil change u also wont want to change at 10k right? 5k would be a good time also engine more smooth less chance for sludge to built up in ur engine? still got a long list like brake oil,engine coolant tyres,brake pad etc......it is good to half the recommended time or milege by the manufacturer so u can feel good u had done everything u can to keep ur car smoother :zipped:
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Why not every 10,000 change since not expensive? That would be even better right? gear more smoother and will convince urself ur gearbox will last longer mar right? than normal sythethic engine oil change u also wont want to change at 10k right? 5k would be a good time also engine more smooth less chance for sludge to built up in ur engine? still got a long list like brake oil,engine coolant tyres,brake pad etc......it is good to half the recommended time or milege by the manufacturer so u can feel good u had done everything u can to keep ur car smoother :zipped:
u can go ahead at do what u recommend, its your car after all... for me, 30,000 - 40,000 will be just right.... like i mentioned before, that is jus me...
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i dont think there will be any harm to our CVT GB if we change the transmission fluid frequently other then burnt wallet. The cvt fluid must be NS-2 from Nissan, no after market type to be use. CVT NS-2 fluid is quite costly, about 90 - 110 per 4 litre. Please correct me if i'm wrong ... :thumbsup:
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Thanks fri13th for more info :thumbsup:..by the way, anyone know how to check the quality of CVT oil other than just change every 60kkm or 3 yrs. Mine, just reached 45kkm but already 3yrs liao..Got this 3yrs Latio in Jun 08..Don't feel like to change yet as it's costly mah... :D
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Thanks fri13th for more info :thumbsup:..by the way, anyone know how to check the quality of CVT oil other than just change every 60kkm or 3 yrs. Mine, just reached 45kkm but already 3yrs liao..Got this 3yrs Latio in Jun 08..Don't feel like to change yet as it's costly mah... :D
find the dip stick for the auto box, and check the color of the oil... my previous cvt oil original is red, turn black must change... as my latio only 9mth.. i still dnt knw wat is the original color and where is the dip stick for the auto box...
till date, only hear bad things about the belt tensioner and battery... not heard anything bad about nissan cvt in latio yet... hee...
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i dont think there will be any harm to our CVT GB if we change the transmission fluid frequently other then burnt wallet. The cvt fluid must be NS-2 from Nissan, no after market type to be use. CVT NS-2 fluid is quite costly, about 90 - 110 per 4 litre. Please correct me if i'm wrong ... :thumbsup:
is it true that we can only get it from nissan TC?
no after market? or other shops selling the original nissan cvt transmission fluid ?
& how much do we need? 4litre? or more?
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is it true that we can only get it from nissan TC?
no after market? or other shops selling the original nissan cvt transmission fluid ?
& how much do we need? 4litre? or more?
no la, cant be true, i knw for sure stamford n autosaver sells them...
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find the dip stick for the auto box, and check the color of the oil... my previous cvt oil original is red, turn black must change... as my latio only 9mth.. i still dnt knw wat is the original color and where is the dip stick for the auto box...
till date, only hear bad things about the belt tensioner and battery... not heard anything bad about nissan cvt in latio yet... hee...
Hi spyder_696, still not sure where to look for dip stick lei (the dip stick for eng oil can be found)...should be the the stick at middle below right? If yes, how to open the cover? Have try service at Malaysia but the info gather from them very diff from S'pore lei :ohmy:...eg. they are also using hand held electronic device, and showed me the gear milleage is diff from car milleage, eg. car milleage at 45kkm but gear milleage only at 12kkm...worst still :out: :out: :out:has been advised that our cvt fluid can last upto 210kkm lei ::) ::) ::)hee...hee.....believed sound very confuse to many, but this is my true exp in Malaysia...thinking of going to autosaver on my next service...rather be safe than be sorry....
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Hi spyder_696, still not sure where to look for dip stick lei (the dip stick for eng oil can be found)...should be the the stick at middle below right? If yes, how to open the cover? Have try service at Malaysia but the info gather from them very diff from S'pore lei :ohmy:...eg. they are also using hand held electronic device, and showed me the gear milleage is diff from car milleage, eg. car milleage at 45kkm but gear milleage only at 12kkm...worst still :out: :out: :out:has been advised that our cvt fluid can last upto 210kkm lei ::) ::) ::)hee...hee.....believed sound very confuse to many, but this is my true exp in Malaysia...thinking of going to autosaver on my next service...rather be safe than be sorry....
the cvt dip stick is some where btw the battery and the coolant cap... check fluid level when engine is running... for my last cvt.. i change the cvt oil first time at 38k... then gearbox start to slip before it hit 70k, i change cvt oil again... then near 100k, gearbox is really bad... sold off immediately... tat was a mit cvt...
for my latio.. i will change inbtw the recommended mileage, as i drive very little and very hard... hee...
tat is just me...
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sorry for a newbie question,
Is the Premium model's have the CVTC function beside the CVT?
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no la, cant be true, i knw for sure stamford n autosaver sells them...
from what i understand, we are to use only Nissan NS-2 CVT oil and not any other brands. Please confirm if otherwise.
If you are refering to other garage selling NS-2 Nissan CVT oil is possible cos many places carries this oil. But if you are refering to CVT oil from other makes and brands, then I not sure whether can our car GB uses them ... Please check with Experts only and advise back in this thread for others informations ... thk u...
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from what i understand, we are to use only Nissan NS-2 CVT oil and not any other brands. Please confirm if otherwise.
If you are refering to other garage selling NS-2 Nissan CVT oil is possible cos many places carries this oil. But if you are refering to CVT oil from other makes and brands, then I not sure whether can our car GB uses them ... Please check with Experts only and advise back in this thread for others informations ... thk u...
yes yes... expert's advice needed...
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from what i understand, we are to use only Nissan NS-2 CVT oil and not any other brands. Please confirm if otherwise.
If you are refering to other garage selling NS-2 Nissan CVT oil is possible cos many places carries this oil. But if you are refering to CVT oil from other makes and brands, then I not sure whether can our car GB uses them ... Please check with Experts only and advise back in this thread for others informations ... thk u...
yes, u r rite about latio gb can only use nissan original destinated grade of gb oil.. what i meant was many plcs sell them beside tcm... :)
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sorry for a newbie question,
Is the Premium model's have the CVTC function beside the CVT?
OT here. Started a thread for you. ;D
http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6772.0 (http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6772.0)
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the cvt dip stick is some where btw the battery and the coolant cap... check fluid level when engine is running... for my last cvt.. i change the cvt oil first time at 38k... then gearbox start to slip before it hit 70k, i change cvt oil again... then near 100k, gearbox is really bad... sold off immediately... tat was a mit cvt...
for my latio.. i will change inbtw the recommended mileage, as i drive very little and very hard... hee...
tat is just me...
Hi spyder_696, thanks for the info, by the way, i faced difficulty to open the cover (black cover)? Thanks to advise :confused1:
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Hi spyder_696, thanks for the info, by the way, i faced difficulty to open the cover (black cover)? Thanks to advise :confused1:
mine only 11k km... hee.. yet got the chance to check it... will try to take a look then revert... reply me ya, so i will be reminded....
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hi spyder_696, remember to check and reply .... TQ :blink:
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Hi All CVT latio owners...
I have a puzzling question.. my friends told me that CVT engine can last at most MAX 120K mileage and BYE BYE... let's say monthly mileage=2000 km*12mths=24k yearly .. so can drive for 5 Years only..
True ?? :confused1:
Thank you
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Hi All CVT latio owners...
I have a puzzling question.. my friends told me that CVT engine can last at most MAX 120K mileage and BYE BYE... let's say monthly mileage=2000 km*12mths=24k yearly .. so can drive for 5 Years only..
True ?? :confused1:
Thank you
maybe in year 1992 yes...
not now i suppose...
CVT is a gearbox not a engine...
go and google nissan techincal website to read more about nissan extronic cvt...
they are different from others...
i think they lock their torque convertor quite frequently...
so it is not as smooth as a cvt shld be...
but shld be able to outlast other cvt boxes ba...
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maybe in year 1992 yes...
not now i suppose...
CVT is a gearbox not a engine...
go and google nissan techincal website to read more about nissan extronic cvt...
they are different from others...
i think they lock their torque convertor quite frequently...
so it is not as smooth as a cvt shld be...
but shld be able to outlast other cvt boxes ba...
Thank you Bro for the input.. yes, i meant the gearbox..
A great relief. But will it last say 7~8 years before it konks out ?
I intend to drive till scrap.
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Thank you Bro for the input.. yes, i meant the gearbox..
A great relief. But will it last say 7~8 years before it konks out ?
I intend to drive till scrap.
erm, i cant say for sure, as i only use nissan one for only around 9 mths... hee...
but i think electronics, is all about heng or suay one lor...
hee...
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Hi spyder_696,, u have yet to check and reply my queries leh..by the way, have tried few times to open the cover but failed leh..dare not to use screw driver to force open...Thanks.
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Hi spyder_696,, u have yet to check and reply my queries leh..by the way, have tried few times to open the cover but failed leh..dare not to use screw driver to force open...Thanks.
k, i will check mine soon...
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Hi spyder_696,, u have yet to check and reply my queries leh..by the way, have tried few times to open the cover but failed leh..dare not to use screw driver to force open...Thanks.
ah.. i almost broke the cap, but still cant get it out... hee.. must have a easy method... hope some one here can advise us...
cheers...
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ha ha :D now u know how difficult to open lei... :smile:
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ha ha :D now u know how difficult to open lei... :smile:
ya, difficult...
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bros, frankly, i have no problem opening mine to monitor the CVT oil level lei ... :confused1:
no need to turn in any direction, u just pull it out lor ... pls try try and revert ... thks
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bros, frankly, i have no problem opening mine to monitor the CVT oil level lei ... :confused1:
no need to turn in any direction, u just pull it out lor ... pls try try and revert ... thks
just tug it upwards is it...
no need to turn or twist or watever isit...
seems really very difficult...
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find the dip stick for the auto box, and check the color of the oil... my previous cvt oil original is red, turn black must change... as my latio only 9mth.. i still dnt knw wat is the original color and where is the dip stick for the auto box...
till date, only hear bad things about the belt tensioner and battery... not heard anything bad about nissan cvt in latio yet... hee...
not too sure about the color. but typical changed should be either every 40k or 60k .. cannot rem. Auto change de ... cannot wait turn black as if the CVT oil turn black .. there is already no protection so the gear box will wear out faster.
Battery dead is rather common as default using wet but most of us dont rem top up of the battery water. Like me .. the last one also dies very fast cause I got many incident below the recommend level. Now in maintenance-free type. so much better I think.
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not too sure about the color. but typical changed should be either every 40k or 60k .. cannot rem. Auto change de ... cannot wait turn black as if the CVT oil turn black .. there is already no protection so the gear box will wear out faster.
Battery dead is rather common as default using wet but most of us dont rem top up of the battery water. Like me .. the last one also dies very fast cause I got many incident below the recommend level. Now in maintenance-free type. so much better I think.
i am waiting for my stock batt to die with alot of heart-attack pending... lol.. cos my friend latio 1yr change one battery... mine is approaching 13mth soon too.. hee... so kinda really scarey...
maintenance free.. urs is wat brand.. last how long le... ppl say varta AGM type can last 2 times longer.. could be safer right.. any comments.. cheers..
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i am waiting for my stock batt to die with alot of heart-attack pending... lol.. cos my friend latio 1yr change one battery... mine is approaching 13mth soon too.. hee... so kinda really scarey...
maintenance free.. urs is wat brand.. last how long le... ppl say varta AGM type can last 2 times longer.. could be safer right.. any comments.. cheers..
didnt do so much research in battery wor.. I am using Amaron.
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didnt do so much research in battery wor.. I am using Amaron.
ah, i see.. u using amaron... r u driving a latio.. how long hv this amaron last in your latio already...
:)
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just tug it upwards is it...
no need to turn or twist or watever isit...
seems really very difficult...
Hi spyder_696, just managed to pull out the dip stick few day ago...Need to use small screw driver (or you may use any small metal/hard object) to press the middle square hole and pull up the stick (i believed we hv diificulty to pull out due to the cover is too tight due to never open b4)...By the way, my colour it look it yellowish (after wipe it on tissue paper) and not sure should i change now (ard 49kkm liao, 3yrs+ 3 mths liao)...from the link attached, the new CVT fluid= Red, Bad = Black, Yellowish (mine) => ???? :confused1: Anyone can help to advise.
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Hi spyder_696, just managed to pull out the dip stick few day ago...Need to use small screw driver (or you may use any small metal/hard object) to press the middle square hole and pull up the stick (i believed we hv diificulty to pull out due to the cover is too tight due to never open b4)...By the way, my colour it look it yellowish (after wipe it on tissue paper) and not sure should i change now (ard 49kkm liao, 3yrs+ 3 mths liao)...from the link attached, the new CVT fluid= Red, Bad = Black, Yellowish (mine) => ???? :confused1: Anyone can help to advise.
49k km, u shld really get it changed... yellowish, could it be engine oil dip stick... cos atf shld either be red or black for my previous mit cvt ley... i till take a screw driver n try now... wait ya...
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Hi spyder_696, just managed to pull out the dip stick few day ago...Need to use small screw driver (or you may use any small metal/hard object) to press the middle square hole and pull up the stick (i believed we hv diificulty to pull out due to the cover is too tight due to never open b4)...By the way, my colour it look it yellowish (after wipe it on tissue paper) and not sure should i change now (ard 49kkm liao, 3yrs+ 3 mths liao)...from the link attached, the new CVT fluid= Red, Bad = Black, Yellowish (mine) => ???? :confused1: Anyone can help to advise.
yup, u r right, need to push the little hole on the left if u r facing the steering wheel... yup, u r oso right the color is not reddish like mit cvt atf oil.. yup, it is a little yellowish... but it is time u get urs change... but i not sure TCM recommended interval is what... i think best to change at 50-70% of their recommended internval... cos cvt box is expensive...
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Ok. Thanks for the advise....what's milleage now (since the colour abt the same, should be Ok right)? Shall get it change in maybe another 1 to 2 months, just b4 new year...
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TCM will change it at 60km interval. I will wait till ~55k km to do my 60K service package and change the CVT oil.
I also spray WD40 on the CVT module to reduce noise if I feel it is too loud, it works for me.
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Hi bro ying, u really a die hard of TCM...shall do the same with yours as yr year made is abt the same with mine (yr 2005). Do updates me the total cost (inclusive of yr servce package or the cost just to get the CVT fluid change). Thanks.
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well I paid S$1019 in mar 08 for TCM 2yrs/40k service package liao. That include CVT oil, brake pad, EO, filters, wiper, spark plug(when needed) and the rest stated in their website.
Each TCM service is 10k apart but I prefer EO change at 7~8k apart. So, I will still do one or two time simple EO change @ outside workshop in between my TCM services. Then do major component/CVT oil change, tyre rotation under TCM at the recommended mileage.
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well I paid S$1019 in mar 08 for TCM 2yrs/40k service package liao. That include CVT oil, brake pad, EO, filters, wiper, spark plug(when needed) and the rest stated in their website.
Each TCM service is 10k apart but I prefer EO change at 7~8k apart. So, I will still do one or two time simple EO change @ outside workshop in between my TCM services. Then do major component/CVT oil change, tyre rotation under TCM at the recommended mileage.
i think 2 yrs max i can only cover 30k... the 10k last service cant be brought over to the 3rd yr right... now my latio 11mth old le... just pass 13k km i think... i oso think i need to change engine oil at 5k interval outside too... hee...
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i think 2 yrs max i can only cover 30k... the 10k last service cant be brought over to the 3rd yr right... now my latio 11mth old le... just pass 13k km i think... i oso think i need to change engine oil at 5k interval outside too... hee...
you can do a service when you once drove 10,000 km or 6 month since previous service. Say you drive 30k in 2 years, no problem just send to workshop every 6 month. You get your oil change in time so that you will not drive with old, degraded oil but TCM only change the parts once you hit that mileage regardless your service package. that means they will adjust the timing to change major component base on your usage, but oil change is regular basis
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you can do a service when you once drove 10,000 km or 6 month since previous service. Say you drive 30k in 2 years, no problem just send to workshop every 6 month. You get your oil change in time so that you will not drive with old, degraded oil but TCM only change the parts once you hit that mileage regardless your service package. that means they will adjust the timing to change major component base on your usage, but oil change is regular basis
then now worth liao lor... better to get servicing at autosaver right... base on my pattern, shld be chng oil at 5k.. n based on tcm chart at 10k.. but warranty will be in question.. sianz man...
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from what i understand, we are to use only Nissan NS-2 CVT oil and not any other brands. Please confirm if otherwise.
If you are refering to other garage selling NS-2 Nissan CVT oil is possible cos many places carries this oil. But if you are refering to CVT oil from other makes and brands, then I not sure whether can our car GB uses them ... Please check with Experts only and advise back in this thread for others informations ... thk u...
I was checking out CVT b4 buying my Latio and found a web-site from Australia on car maintenance stating that the CVT oil used by different brands are different and they advise the readers to go back to the car manufacturers for oil change. Changing the wrong oil might damage the CVT.
I have also checked with the Sales from Tan Cheong Bt Timah. She feedback that the first oil change should be after 60K Km, then every 30K Km.
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I have also checked with the Sales from Tan Cheong Bt Timah. She feedback that the first oil change should be after 60K Km, then every 30K Km.
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yup, all manufacturers uses different grade for their cvt boxes.... and not all car manufacturers make their own cvt boxes... last wkend... nissan sold out all their cvt latio.. and now left with 4A/T... does it means that for nissan, their cvt is better... i really hope so... hee...
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Any 2nd opinion on when 2nd CVT oil shd change (at every 30k km will be damn siong lei)? Mine just changed at Autosaver at $90 with normal service package right b4 CNY. Btw, do watch out the CVT oil level after replacement as for me, 4l (1 standard container of NS-2) is not enough whereby believed they have topped up for me another ~1l, FOC :thumbsup:. So far it's working fine after the replacement.
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regarding cvt oil level, shld be check on flat ground with engine running... need to check manual how much to top up, cant be more as it will damage the box as well... cheers...
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Any 2nd opinion on when 2nd CVT oil shd change (at every 30k km will be damn siong lei)? Mine just changed at Autosaver at $90 with normal service package right b4 CNY. Btw, do watch out the CVT oil level after replacement as for me, 4l (1 standard container of NS-2) is not enough whereby believed they have topped up for me another ~1l, FOC :thumbsup:. So far it's working fine after the replacement.
Hv been with TC since day 1, mine was changed at 60K and 120K, not at 30K interval after the 60K.
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Thanks bro for the confirmation. Noticed yr milleage is of double of mine at ard 60k km now. u must hv bought this car 3.5yrs ago and frequent travel to northen part of m'sia. As for me, bought this car on last Jul at 39k km and now reaching 60k km liao..
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Thanks bro for the confirmation. Noticed yr milleage is of double of mine at ard 60k km now. u must hv bought this car 3.5yrs ago and frequent travel to northen part of m'sia. As for me, bought this car on last Jul at 39k km and now reaching 60k km liao..
Hehe.. yea, travels to KL often, sometime up to Penang. U oso not bad hor, covered ~20K within 6 mths. Since i travel so much, therefore i service all the while at TC, less headache. I don hv to monitor so much on wat nd or hv to change. Normally do 1 service (10K) within 3 mths.
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Thanks for the info sharing...Should able to beat u soon as lot of leave been asked to take (eg, 10 days in next 2 months)
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Changing the CVT oil at a certain mileage is a good idea as a guideline but it should also depend on the style of the driver. If you are aggressive on the throttle, then, the CVT gearbox has to work harder and puts more stress on the moving parts especially on the belt. Just like a manual gearbox with the clutch plates, if you are aggressive with hard acceleration, your clutch wears out faster or rather, the steel belt on the CVT box. The main issue of gearboxes is after warranty if you plan to continue driving the same car. Changing the CVT oil sooner can mean extended lifespan for the gearbox after warranty. Which is cheaper, changing the oil or gearbox?
Car manufacturers have basic guidelines but also need to ensure that it is not too expensive to maintain a car. Let me give you an example, BMW's autoboxes are maintenance free, no need to change the oil, but at 150K, you are supposed to change the whole gearbox. Ouch!
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IS our Latio using the Nissan CVT Transmission Fluid, NS1 or NS2?
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NS2
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wow... it was a long time since any new post here! :p
so how's everyone's CVT doing now? still going strong i hope? Just bought a 2nd hand 4-yrs old latio sports premium... the previous owner did his/her last servicing at 61k at TCM, when i got the car it was at 67k++... do I need to call up TCM to confirm if they had change the CVT NS2 fluid during the last servicing (60k) to play safe? when is the next recommended change for CVT fluid?
lastly do anyone has any idea how much a CVT GB will cost for latio? I heard its ~$3k, also heard its $10k... scary leh.. when i buy this car, i intend to drive till scrap de... if halfway CVT dies on me then i will sian 1/2. :crying:
haha... looking forward to any help from u guys! cheers!
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do your 70k servicing at TCM then u can find out more
3k is for recon GB from japan, brand new >10k i heard
take good care of it, dun do sudden n hard acceleration frequently as told by mech at autoaid
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happy new yr to all! :smile:
btw where u guys do ur servicing at autosaver or autoaid? which one is better? in the sense they will only advise u to chg what is required...
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happy new yr to all! :smile:
btw where u guys do ur servicing at autosaver or autoaid? which one is better? in the sense they will only advise u to chg what is required...
i juz did my at autosaver and from the way they do the job, i've decided to stick with them for my subsequent svcing. Autosaver CVT charges 95bucks. If you bring your own CVT oil, they can change it for you during your 10k svcing session. Outside selling 85bucks for NS2.
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TCM service program for CVT oil replacement is 100k interval. I sent in my latio for 60k and was told it is only require to do a normal package without replacing CVT oil. They charge 100plus for CVt oil.
wow... it was a long time since any new post here! :p
so how's everyone's CVT doing now? still going strong i hope? Just bought a 2nd hand 4-yrs old latio sports premium... the previous owner did his/her last servicing at 61k at TCM, when i got the car it was at 67k++... do I need to call up TCM to confirm if they had change the CVT NS2 fluid during the last servicing (60k) to play safe? when is the next recommended change for CVT fluid?
lastly do anyone has any idea how much a CVT GB will cost for latio? I heard its ~$3k, also heard its $10k... scary leh.. when i buy this car, i intend to drive till scrap de... if halfway CVT dies on me then i will sian 1/2. :crying:
haha... looking forward to any help from u guys! cheers!
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Guys, dont push till 100k to replace your cvt oil. I checked with TCSC and recommended my replacement at 100k. Recently did 70K service and Mech inspected my GB dip meter, found the oil to be dirty already and level low. On the spot drain out the oil.... visually quite dark!! Follow the 60K replacement, also check your GB dip meter over 10K to be safe.
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Hi,
Just got my end09 Latio.....thinking are we possible to DIY the CVT oil change? :confused1:
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Anybody know how much cvt oil our latio need? Thinking of buying the CVT NS-2 oil myself and change at outside workshop during 60K servicing.
If more than 4L, how long can we store the leftover cvt oil? Feel like very wasteful if throw away. Very exp.
Also, which nissan stockists do you all normally get your parts? First servicing outside TCM, so had to ask.
Thanks in advance.
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wow... it was a long time since any new post here! :p
so how's everyone's CVT doing now? still going strong i hope? Just bought a 2nd hand 4-yrs old latio sports premium... the previous owner did his/her last servicing at 61k at TCM, when i got the car it was at 67k++... do I need to call up TCM to confirm if they had change the CVT NS2 fluid during the last servicing (60k) to play safe? when is the next recommended change for CVT fluid?
lastly do anyone has any idea how much a CVT GB will cost for latio? I heard its ~$3k, also heard its $10k... scary leh.. when i buy this car, i intend to drive till scrap de... if halfway CVT dies on me then i will sian 1/2. :crying:
haha... looking forward to any help from u guys! cheers!
I just changed my CVT gear box because mine died... I did not know about the CVT oil change thingy hecen up to 140K still never change - and my mechanic - the small shop one - never tell me to change.
Then the gear box died on me - got to tow the car.
At TC - they recommend to change the whole gear box at $13K!
At Delgro - they recommend me to overhaul the gear box at $4500.
In the end my rep send me to another workshop at Ubi - they changed my GB to a recon one at $3500.
However, there is a risk - it may or may not be that good.
And true enough - 2 weeks later it died again. It was replaced again with another recon GB. Car in for 1 week. Just got car back last Friday. Now stress testing the car to see if it will break down again...
I learned my lesson lor....
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good info,
i did renew my cvt fluid at 60k, but currently my milage still at less than 100k, so keeping my fingers crossed.
am surprised the mechanic never mentioned about changing your cvt fluid, if i am not wrong, normal 4AT also need to replace their ATF at certain interval.
safe driving bro.
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I previously servicing with TCM - recently divorce them and service outside cheaper. 4.5yr latio.
Currently my milage just hit 180k and I think their last CVT oil change were at 80k or 100k? My cousin forgot already - I bought the car from him btw.
Planning to go Autosaver asap for CVT oil change. Beside changing CVT oil at regular interval, any else require? Eg. full servicing or overhauling?
Currently CVT is still working fine but I do know that it ought to be maintain similarly for 4AT - flushing and changing AT oil.
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just change ur CVToil will do.
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Did the oil change at autosaver Yew Tee at $140+.
KNS, mechanic found out engine mount worn out, need change replacement at $500+ including labour! :crycry:
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Did the oil change at autosaver Yew Tee at $140+.
KNS, mechanic found out engine mount worn out, need change replacement at $500+ including labour! :crycry:
bro,too bad u have already changed ur CVT oil liao,i'm offering lower than that,but never mind i still have better offer waiting for u to grab.PM me anytime if wanna ask anythings.
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Previously driven the lancer glxi auto CVT and during that time my mechanic advice to change the CVT oil at 30k to 40k interval. So each time i see the oil(if I remember correctly) it's reddish in colour and looks pretty used but still reddish.
Now currently driving latio at 40K mileage I went to change the CVT oil and the colour is totally BLACK. The oil use is NS-2 and the colour is clear greenish. My concern is failure of CVT which may cost more so assume average mileage at 20k per year and change at every 2yrs of $140 is still reasonable and after the oil change I can feel the drive very much smoother.
Car is very expensive so need to take care to drive long long......
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just did a cvt oil change at normal mech.
bro kelvin can confirm these info?
cvt replaced :5.5L
engine oil : 3.5L
mech used idemitso 5w-40 oil and idemitsu cvt oil
boleh? my mileage at 93k. gear box feels great. but amount of oil, is there anywhere i can refer to on the amount?
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just did a cvt oil change at normal mech.
bro kelvin can confirm these info?
cvt replaced :5.5L
engine oil : 3.5L
mech used idemitso 5w-40 oil and idemitsu cvt oil
boleh? my mileage at 93k. gear box feels great. but amount of oil, is there anywhere i can refer to on the amount?
bro, your mech uses idemitsu oil? Not the original Nissan NS-2 CVT oil?? Any problem so far??
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just did a cvt oil change at normal mech.
bro kelvin can confirm these info?
cvt replaced :5.5L
engine oil : 3.5L
mech used idemitso 5w-40 oil and idemitsu cvt oil
boleh? my mileage at 93k. gear box feels great. but amount of oil, is there anywhere i can refer to on the amount?
CVT oil is 5.5 - 6 litres
Engine oil is 3.1 litres should be enough already.DON"T OVER FILL THE ENGINE OIL.
as for the CVT oil,why not using back the original nissan NS2 fluid.if anything goes wrong ,u need to come out more money for CVT GB