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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: jliow on April 25, 2008, 03:05:25 PM
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Dear Bros and Sis
lately my Latio 4AT drinking petrol like water, and net yet 5K servicing yet......my driving conditions worsen a bit lately as I encounter a number of jams, but lately my last 2 full tank dry up before reaching 400Km, and I top up abt 36-38L. I used to get abt 12.5FC, but now less than 11....somethings wrong? I also try to maintain my rpm at 2K most of the time, sometimes overtake will hit 3K, but very very seldom...
any suggestion ? :confused1: :crying:
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Dear Bros and Sis
lately my Latio 4AT drinking petrol like water, and net yet 5K servicing yet......my driving conditions worsen a bit lately as I encounter a number of jams, but lately my last 2 full tank dry up before reaching 400Km, and I top up abt 36-38L. I used to get abt 12.5FC, but now less than 11....somethings wrong? I also try to maintain my rpm at 2K most of the time, sometimes overtake will hit 3K, but very very seldom...
any suggestion ? :confused1: :crying:
Yo Bro....i believe alot of lations share the same setiments as yours with lots of qns on the FC....like mine also has drop but mainly due to my route of travelling and % of highways vs cities area..so really gotta gauge the rational behind lor... Anyway, few factors that may cater to the reasons behind although some may / may not agree lah :thumbsup:
Air Con adjustment (How cold / hot you adjusted)
Tyres (Air inflation did you check freq)
Traffic Congestion (Traffics also need to consider the idling time, stopping period)
Foot how heavy (Heavier you are, more it will lim your petrol)
Speed constant (Maintain proper speed all the way to avoid unnec wastage of petrol)
Way of driving - Sudden brake / pickup, etc..(rem any sudden movement sure pump our ride heart heavy big time)
Route Area (City vs highway %)
Any more to add on Lations???? :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
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Yo Bro....i believe alot of lations share the same setiments as yours with lots of qns on the FC....like mine also has drop but mainly due to my route of travelling and % of highways vs cities area..so really gotta gauge the rational behind lor... Anyway, few factors that may cater to the reasons behind although some may / may not agree lah :thumbsup:
Air Con adjustment (How cold / hot you adjusted)
Tyres (Air inflation did you check freq)
Traffic Congestion (Traffics also need to consider the idling time, stopping period)
Foot how heavy (Heavier you are, more it will lim your petrol)
Speed constant (Maintain proper speed all the way to avoid unnec wastage of petrol)
Way of driving - Sudden brake / pickup, etc..(rem any sudden movement sure pump our ride heart heavy big time)
Route Area (City vs highway %)
Any more to add on Lations???? :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
Hi Bro....for your queries....I did the following
Air Con adjustment - usually 23-24, after I drop my wify I turn off aircon for the rest of my ride.
Tyres (Air inflation did you check freq)- yup every 2 weeks
Traffic Congestion -variable, route in the morning always go via Kaki bukit viaduct. sometimes jam, just roll and roll,
Foot how heavy (Heavier you are, more it will lim your petrol) - not always, only when I encounter idiot drivers hogging road....
Speed constant (Maintain proper speed all the way to avoid unnec wastage of petrol) - usually between 70-90kmph
Way of driving - Sudden brake / pickup, etc..(rem any sudden movement sure pump our ride heart heavy big time) - seldom la, but sudden brake sure have when u kena idiots driving or cutting in dangerously
Route Area (City vs highway %) humm...no highway, but 50% road jams, 50% no road jams..
I scraped the curb a couple of times, but dun think that will siong my car FC...then again who knows..... :pray:
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Yo Bro....i believe alot of lations share the same setiments as yours with lots of qns on the FC....like mine also has drop but mainly due to my route of travelling and % of highways vs cities area..so really gotta gauge the rational behind lor... Anyway, few factors that may cater to the reasons behind although some may / may not agree lah :thumbsup:
Air Con adjustment (How cold / hot you adjusted)
Tyres (Air inflation did you check freq)
Traffic Congestion (Traffics also need to consider the idling time, stopping period)
Foot how heavy (Heavier you are, more it will lim your petrol)
Speed constant (Maintain proper speed all the way to avoid unnec wastage of petrol)
Way of driving - Sudden brake / pickup, etc..(rem any sudden movement sure pump our ride heart heavy big time)
Route Area (City vs highway %)
Any more to add on Lations???? :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
Add on:
1) Dont forget any modifications that u had made.
By right on mineral oil should have the best FC.
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Add on:
1) Dont forget any modifications that u had made.
By right on mineral oil should have the best FC.
All very original.....
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Add on:
By right on mineral oil should have the best FC.
Huh? I tot syn oil will have better FC than mineral oil?
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What's the recommended pressure for the tyres? Using stock tyres here...
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Huh? I tot syn oil will have better FC than mineral oil?
Yep, synthetic oil should have better FC. ;)
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I think I know what happen.....last 2 full tank I use SPC 98, KNN the oil burn like no tomorrow, 80K, reach 1st quater tank.....
Today I went to pump Esso 5000, reaching 60Km, but not even hit a quarter of my quarter tank......
Got like that one meh?
Anyone got such experience?
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Try to recount if u recently had done anything to ur car..a friend of my driving a Toyota Isis once had his wheel scratch a kerb..he thought it was fine..but as he drives..his FC plummets and after sending for investigation..the mechance told him his wheel was like actually slanted in..and he had to spend some $ to repair and eventually his FC returns...i cant recall whats the part that was spoilt though
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my last tank hit 377km only, pumped 35L, 100% city driving :mad:
so far noticed tat 95 gives better mileage than 98.
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Try to recount if u recently had done anything to ur car..a friend of my driving a Toyota Isis once had his wheel scratch a kerb..he thought it was fine..but as he drives..his FC plummets and after sending for investigation..the mechance told him his wheel was like actually slanted in..and he had to spend some $ to repair and eventually his FC returns...i cant recall whats the part that was spoilt though
Humm..thanks....ut I am very sure the wheel never kena, just the lower part of the bumper scratches kerb, i think its me, not used to the low bumper skirtings, lucky the scratched parts are not visible, i checked the heels alignment also...looks ok
I pumped 230PSI on front wheel and 215PSI on rear wheel...not sure what bros and sis who got good FC pump here, I just follow th e label.
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Yep, synthetic oil should have better FC. ;)
Just to share with you guys, during 10K (Km) service, I was told by TCM staff, changing to synthetic oil can give better FC. So I spent my hard-earn $80 for the so-call top oil. 0w30.
End up, my FC drop from 11km/l to <10km/l. I've already monitored for two full tank. The bloody FC stuck at 9.5~10km/l. My driving patten never change, 10% highway.
My $ thrown into drain. I'll never trust TCM guys again.
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Humm..thanks....ut I am very sure the wheel never kena, just the lower part of the bumper scratches kerb, i think its me, not used to the low bumper skirtings, lucky the scratched parts are not visible, i checked the heels alignment also...looks ok
I pumped 230PSI on front wheel and 215PSI on rear wheel...not sure what bros and sis who got good FC pump here, I just follow th e label.
hi bro try pumping to front 270psi rear 250 psi as after i did that my fc from 12.5 become 14.5 after pumping. max for stock tire is 300 psi.
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hi bro try pumping to front 270psi rear 250 psi as after i did that my fc from 12.5 become 14.5 after pumping. max for stock tire is 300 psi.
Is this pressure able to be used for 215/45/R17 as well? i not surre what pressure to pump..
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Is this pressure able to be used for 215/45/R17 as well? i not surre what pressure to pump..
i pumped 240psi for tat size. My fc is about 12.X per km on 17".
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Just to share with you guys, during 10K (Km) service, I was told by TCM staff, changing to synthetic oil can give better FC. So I spent my hard-earn $80 for the so-call top oil. 0w30.
End up, my FC drop from 11km/l to <10km/l. I've already monitored for two full tank. The bloody FC stuck at 9.5~10km/l. My driving patten never change, 10% highway.
My $ thrown into drain. I'll never trust TCM guys again.
actually he is not lying, thiiner oil should yield better fuel efficiency.
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hi bro try pumping to front 270psi rear 250 psi as after i did that my fc from 12.5 become 14.5 after pumping. max for stock tire is 300 psi.
not advisable..... ur tire thread will wear out faster in the middle & given tat stock tires already skidded easily.... u are contributing more postential to skidding with such PSI.
dangerous, so take care.
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My driving patten never change, 10% highway.
10% highway...even any car will also has issue FC unless u driving a HCH wich will fetch u a crazy FC of 22km/l upwards for ur scenario
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not advisable..... ur tire thread will wear out faster in the middle & given tat stock tires already skidded easily.... u are contributing more postential to skidding with such PSI.
dangerous, so take care.
Ya very agree the stock tyres already don't grip very well. maybe I will increase a little to the front....say 245 and rear 225...
So far this is what I feel when I change petrol
SPC 95 CMI, no power at all so make me squeeze more oil
SPC 98 got power, but burn like no tomorrow, esp when idling or kena jam
Esso 5K....Good power, burn slowly
Esso 8K Good power, burn somewhat quicker?? To be confirmed
Caltex sliver: not bad power, good burn rate, not too quick
Caltex Gold and above: no chance to try yet, too exp.
Shell 95, no diff from SPC 98
Shell 98, no diff from Esso 5K but pricier
V-power, dun think will try until they day I drive to Malaysia.
My conclusion....stick to Esso 5K .... :thumbsup:
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i pumped 240psi for tat size. My fc is about 12.X per km on 17".
hmm... any other variations from other bros here?
i pump 250 in front and 230 in rear for 17inch.. so not sure if its adequate...
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not advisable..... ur tire thread will wear out faster in the middle & given tat stock tires already skidded easily.... u are contributing more postential to skidding with such PSI.
dangerous, so take care.
agree with you stephen. although max pressure is at 300, this does not mean go ahead and pump that high. not to forget, hot that time, tire pressure will increase as well.
do drive carefully bro fri13th
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agree with you stephen. although max pressure is at 300, this does not mean go ahead and pump that high. not to forget, hot that time, tire pressure will increase as well.
do drive carefully bro fri13th
hi bro thks for the advise! so far for me the stock tires are serving me well for my driving style, i think u are right in ur point to driving carefully as that is better than having those very grippy tires on our rides and be over confident that those tires will make us invincible on the road and tailgate other vehicles on the road.....recently i just meet with a chain collision accident on AYE last month a new merc slk convertable SJB plate and a fiat punto come crashing to my backside after i had stop for about 2 seconds. the slk had those huge expensive looking tires and rims on it yet still can crash into me. i pump at 270psi front and 250 psi back after trying out different psi and i find it suits me best as car move off faster and turn in also sharper. the recomended pressure i think is too little for me cos i look at the tires they look like punture to me especially the front 1s. so i think staying alert of the road condition and keeping a safe distance and speed during driving is critical to having a safe and pleasant journey. As for wear in the center i had not experience it b4 on my kind of tire pressure its always the side wear out first especially the front ones...but not a problem lar just rotate it every 10k or 20k should solve the problem :thumbsup:
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the recomended pressure i think is too little for me cos i look at the tires they look like punture to me especially the front 1s.
Bro..... stock tires are comfort rubber.... aint performance tat give u a straight/flat side wall.... the wall of the stock tire are suppose to look liddat to create cushioning. if pump till tat "protruding" side wall is flat.... then u really gotta drive with care...
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SPC 98 got power, but burn like no tomorrow, esp when idling or kena jam
Esso 5K....Good power, burn slowly
Esso 8K Good power, burn somewhat quicker?? To be confirmed
My conclusion....stick to Esso 5K .... :thumbsup:
That equates to 50% Esso5K+ 25% Esso8K + 25% SPC98 = the best ! :thumbsup:
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Hi all
My FC hit 11.2km/l. sadness. very jialat. hehe.
but i thk it was due to my foot, 4k+ to 5k rpm to speed up to 160km/h+ in HSHW!!!
Regards.
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just done my 5k servicing on fri... on average I got only abt 12km/l.... hai.. < 10% highway... pumped 250 front, 230 back.. using esso 5000...
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actually he is not lying, thiiner oil should yield better fuel efficiency.
But the fact is, after the 3rd FOC service and changing synthetic. Very obviously, while my usage model remains, FC drop from ~11km/l to ~10km/l. The car also feel no power to move.
If I would know this'll be the result, I won't change oil. Or don't even send for service. Their FOC 10K service ruined my car to a certian extent. :mad:.
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But the fact is, after the 3rd FOC service and changing synthetic. Very obviously, while my usage model remains, FC drop from ~11km/l to ~10km/l. The car also feel no power to move.
If I would know this'll be the result, I won't change oil. Or don't even send for service. Their FOC 10K service ruined my car to a certian extent. :mad:.
u used fastflo?
maybe not tat ideal (but then generally should still be better than their mineral).... this is the reason why i didnt take up their maintenance program...... becos they use fastflo :)
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hi bro thks for the advise! so far for me the stock tires are serving me well for my driving style, i think u are right in ur point to driving carefully as that is better than having those very grippy tires on our rides and be over confident that those tires will make us invincible on the road and tailgate other vehicles on the road.....recently i just meet with a chain collision accident on AYE last month a new merc slk convertable SJB plate and a fiat punto come crashing to my backside after i had stop for about 2 seconds. the slk had those huge expensive looking tires and rims on it yet still can crash into me. i pump at 270psi front and 250 psi back after trying out different psi and i find it suits me best as car move off faster and turn in also sharper. the recomended pressure i think is too little for me cos i look at the tires they look like punture to me especially the front 1s. so i think staying alert of the road condition and keeping a safe distance and speed during driving is critical to having a safe and pleasant journey. As for wear in the center i had not experience it b4 on my kind of tire pressure its always the side wear out first especially the front ones...but not a problem lar just rotate it every 10k or 20k should solve the problem :thumbsup:
You can pump to 270psi ? :blink: Thought most is around 33psi only ? :confused1:
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You can pump to 270psi ? :blink: Thought most is around 33psi only ? :confused1:
haha than it should be in kpa not psi ;D
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You can pump to 270psi ? :blink: Thought most is around 33psi only ? :confused1:
It can go beyond 33 psi. Two days after I collected the car, I went to pump petrol and check tire air pressure at the same time. The reading was 37 psi for the front (4 readings above the recommended 33). I was surprised why they pumped so high. Wonder if it is they were preparing for the air to leak overtime while in the warehouse. Now I always pump at recommended plus 1 psi (to compensate a bit for the hot air).
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personally, i feel that 270psi makes the ride a bit boundy.
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Currently my car now is still under run-in period mileage 900km<1000km. Understand that need to subtain 2000km onward than can lup.......
But my FC is dropping from 11.5km/l to 10.3km/l comparing 1st tank & 2nd tank SPC 95 top up. Also dun understand why bcos my driving pattern didn't change much as it is still under run-in :(.
Any bro care to comment?
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Burn slowly for 95. Look like I should forgo the Green at Esso and go for 95 Red. Doesn't matter for sudden change from 98 to 95?
I didn't know that psi involved with FC too.
Can I ask that why everyone seem to go back to TCM even after the warranty period over? Why not go to other shops?
Just wondering thou. :zipped:
My FC is currently 12+km/l. So far so good for 2nd hand car. But I do need a full servicing. (Does anyone know whats the price range for thorough servicing? Thanks a lot)
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might be the initial carbon deposit in new engine... after 1000k service shld be better since the engine oil is changed...
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Hi, Can someone tell me what is the meaning of Stock Tyres?
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Hi, Can someone tell me what is the meaning of Stock Tyres?
It meant originally from Nissan agent. That's why you see stock here and there... ;D
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Ya very agree the stock tyres already don't grip very well. maybe I will increase a little to the front....say 245 and rear 225...
So far this is what I feel when I change petrol
SPC 95 CMI, no power at all so make me squeeze more oil
SPC 98 got power, but burn like no tomorrow, esp when idling or kena jam
Esso 5K....Good power, burn slowly
Esso 8K Good power, burn somewhat quicker?? To be confirmed
Caltex sliver: not bad power, good burn rate, not too quick
Caltex Gold and above: no chance to try yet, too exp.
Shell 95, no diff from SPC 98
Shell 98, no diff from Esso 5K but pricier
V-power, dun think will try until they day I drive to Malaysia.
My conclusion....stick to Esso 5K .... :thumbsup:
u r my bro when it comes to petrol ;D im also sticking to esso 5k. Yup, personally tried all sorts of petrol in the beginning also. find that in terms of smoothness, shell and spc is better than esso. esso makes the engine somewhat...raw? or rougher abit, but i feel its got slightly better punch. Anyway, got a 12% corporate discount la, and since im a heavy user of the car, i cant achieve the max discount which SPC gives.
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hi bro thks for the advise! so far for me the stock tires are serving me well for my driving style, i think u are right in ur point to driving carefully as that is better than having those very grippy tires on our rides and be over confident that those tires will make us invincible on the road and tailgate other vehicles on the road.....
Ken: yah yah, tailgating is a egoistic bad habit. I think jus overtake if u can will be better.
recently i just meet with a chain collision accident on AYE last month a new merc slk convertable SJB plate and a fiat punto come crashing to my backside after i had stop for about 2 seconds. the slk had those huge expensive looking tires and rims on it yet still can crash into me.
Ken: Ouch man....i feel you bro, but difference was that the fella that banged into me was a subaru R1. Almost exactly the same, stopped for about 1-2 sec, then bang! The SLK probably couldnt handle the power and couldnt brake in time ba?
i pump at 270psi front and 250 psi back after trying out different psi and i find it suits me best as car move off faster and turn in also sharper. the recomended pressure i think is too little for me cos i look at the tires they look like punture to me especially the front 1s. so i think staying alert of the road condition and keeping a safe distance and speed during driving is critical to having a safe and pleasant journey.
Ken: Agree with u on this point, no matter what tires or pressure u use, eyes must be sharp. However, sometimes on the roads, there are pple who suddenly cut into our lanes or do really silly and rash things, in such situations, it will be better to have your braking system more effective lo. i hope u understand that we are jus concerned, not saying you are wrong in pumping so high k? :thumbsup:
As for wear in the center i had not experience it b4 on my kind of tire pressure its always the side wear out first especially the front ones...but not a problem lar just rotate it every 10k or 20k should solve the problem :thumbsup:
Ken: try rotating at 10k will be better. but even so, i know of a bro who used to pump 290kpa. ya, very high...too high...caused uneven wear on his tire. of cos, i wun dare say it will be the same for ur case since yours is 270kpa. Anyway, if u r happy with it, suits your driving style, and does save you petrol, then cheers!
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I have my tyres at 265kPa up front and 235kPa rear. At these pressures, I don't think we have to worry about uneven wear on the tyres. Most tyres are more prone to uneven wear from underinflation. Also, inflating to higher pressures means the tyre suffers less deformation while rolling at high speeds and that contributes to lower operating temperatures on the highway.
One crazy theory I have is that TCM technicians have to rev the engines hard as part of their checks and this may upset the ECU somewhat so that you may need to "teach" the ECU to return to your usual frugal fuel sipping drive style.
I think 12km/l for 10%HW is an excellent figure. It is very difficult to get good mileage with A/C blasting and if you make only short trips. The engine is rather inefficient before it reaches operating temperature. Also, a cold transmission has a nasty habit of not locking up the torque converter.
Try to:
- Time traffic lights so you don't have to stop
- Leave more space in front of you so you brake less often
- Turn off your engine at stopped at lights that take forever to change
- Do not warm up you engine by idling. Just start and drive off at a relaxed pace
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hi bro thks for the advise! so far for me the stock tires are serving me well for my driving style, i think u are right in ur point to driving carefully as that is better than having those very grippy tires on our rides and be over confident that those tires will make us invincible on the road and tailgate other vehicles on the road.....
Ken: yah yah, tailgating is a egoistic bad habit. I think jus overtake if u can will be better.
recently i just meet with a chain collision accident on AYE last month a new merc slk convertable SJB plate and a fiat punto come crashing to my backside after i had stop for about 2 seconds. the slk had those huge expensive looking tires and rims on it yet still can crash into me.
Ken: Ouch man....i feel you bro, but difference was that the fella that banged into me was a subaru R1. Almost exactly the same, stopped for about 1-2 sec, then bang! The SLK probably couldnt handle the power and couldnt brake in time ba?
i pump at 270psi front and 250 psi back after trying out different psi and i find it suits me best as car move off faster and turn in also sharper. the recomended pressure i think is too little for me cos i look at the tires they look like punture to me especially the front 1s. so i think staying alert of the road condition and keeping a safe distance and speed during driving is critical to having a safe and pleasant journey.
Ken: Agree with u on this point, no matter what tires or pressure u use, eyes must be sharp. However, sometimes on the roads, there are pple who suddenly cut into our lanes or do really silly and rash things, in such situations, it will be better to have your braking system more effective lo. i hope u understand that we are jus concerned, not saying you are wrong in pumping so high k? :thumbsup:
As for wear in the center i had not experience it b4 on my kind of tire pressure its always the side wear out first especially the front ones...but not a problem lar just rotate it every 10k or 20k should solve the problem :thumbsup:
Ken: try rotating at 10k will be better. but even so, i know of a bro who used to pump 290kpa. ya, very high...too high...caused uneven wear on his tire. of cos, i wun dare say it will be the same for ur case since yours is 270kpa. Anyway, if u r happy with it, suits your driving style, and does save you petrol, then cheers!
thks ken! its really fun and rewarding to see us all sharing on tips to make us better drivers! that crash to my backside really scare the hell out of me man....the twice loud banging from behind :scared: but the workshop gave me some sweets for the ordeal i went through ;D now waiting for the injury claim lolipop to come :yehyeh:
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Guys, just to clear my doubt on Esso petrol. Red is 9x? and Green is 9x??? :confused1:
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can't remember the colour... but 2000 = 92, 5000 = 95 and 8000 = 98
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Mine currently also yet to reach 5K servicing, last top-up...Full Tank, Full to the Rim.
Now needle pointing the last quarter, should be another 40km more to go b4 light soing to show and my speedo is showing - 325km done.
I can't remember how much liters I top-up on the last tank but you guys thinks my is worse? I'm on a Sport, CVT.
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can't remember the colour... but 2000 = 92, 5000 = 95 and 8000 = 98
:thumbsup:
But Esso got 2K? dun seems to see any ard? Anyone can confirm?
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I always pump Green... But wondering it is 95 or 98? :out:
When I hit 1/4 left of petrol, I see its 400km...(IIRC) :zipped:
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But Esso got 2K? dun seems to see any ard? Anyone can confirm?
I think bukit merah there near queensway shopping centre might have... can try asking the ppl who pump 92 for their latio here...
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But Esso got 2K? dun seems to see any ard? Anyone can confirm?
Thomson Road Esso after Thomson Plaza have also...my advise to those that want to pump 92...try doing it in this way, 2 tanks of 92 then 1 tank of 95 cos during my testing period, at the 3rd tank of 92..my car have that "lost of power" feel but feel better when 1 do a tank of 95 so using this routine for my top up.
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very interesting find....my car has been known for bad fc, never crossed 12.5km/l b4, and that was during run in. thereafter, it has always been 10.x km/l.
but my last tank clocked 13.5km/l. Nowadays i pump only 20L aka $43, end up getting 270 when the light came back on....So who says 17" cant clock good fc :devil2: and no no, i wasnt 90% on the highways, still got whack whack quite a fair bit.
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very interesting find....my car has been known for bad fc, never crossed 12.5km/l b4, and that was during run in. thereafter, it has always been 10.x km/l.
but my last tank clocked 13.5km/l. Nowadays i pump only 20L aka $43, end up getting 270 when the light came back on....So who says 17" cant clock good fc :devil2: and no no, i wasnt 90% on the highways, still got whack whack quite a fair bit.
I gotten a Lemon Latio?
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you didnt get a lemon latio..monitor the mileage after your 10k servicing as now is still within the running in period so be a bit light footed for the moment..
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you didnt get a lemon latio..monitor the mileage after your 10k servicing as now is still within the running in period so be a bit light footed for the moment..
Hi Bro, This means Latio run-in period is 10,000 km. So high arh? The manual states run-in period is 1,000 miles (i.e. 1,600 km). An average user will clock about 20,000 km per year. This means run-in period is 6 months.
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just check yesterday at esso (clementi)... blue = 2000, red = 5000, green = 8000.... oh... hmmm better fc after 10,000 might be due to the syn oil that we will be using ba...
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you didnt get a lemon latio..monitor the mileage after your 10k servicing as now is still within the running in period so be a bit light footed for the moment..
10K? I consider light footed to my latio then to my Sunny FL N16, for Sunny i gotten 9.5km/L...
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just check yesterday at esso (clementi)... blue = 2000, red = 5000, green = 8000.... oh... hmmm better fc after 10,000 might be due to the syn oil that we will be using ba...
Sweet.. thanks!!!! I been pumping Green all these while... can our Latio take in Blue??? :w00t:
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Sweet.. thanks!!!! I been pumping Green all these while... can our Latio take in Blue??? :w00t:
Can..y not.
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Thomson Road Esso after Thomson Plaza have also...my advise to those that want to pump 92...try doing it in this way, 2 tanks of 92 then 1 tank of 95 cos during my testing period, at the 3rd tank of 92..my car have that "lost of power" feel but feel better when 1 do a tank of 95 so using this routine for my top up.
Ho ho ho :yehyeh: I shall try ya method tho! :thumbsup:
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Ho ho ho :yehyeh: I shall try ya method tho! :thumbsup:
No harm trying.
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Must c if along Bukit Timah Rd (Beside Linear condo) has 92 or not
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try to look at all the pumps in the station... I heard for some stations, only 1or 2 of the pumps provide all the 3 grade..
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Just to share some interesting experience on FC.
I have very consistently gotten 14+km/l for every full-tank pump for the past 1 year. However, on a couple of once-a-blue-moon occasions, a particular full-tank pump would only yield a low 12km/l. It will then return to consistently 14+km/l on subsequent pumps. The sharp peak in FC for such one pump is very noticeable. When such phenomenons happen, there are no servicings in between nor change of drivers, travelling routes between pumps etc. I am not sure I am alone in this experience.
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Thats good for constant 14km+. Mine is up n down.. :(
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yeah walker, same here.. normally i would refill 40l fuel , usin the same grade, travellin the same route daily on a constant speed at times i can clocked 610km max but sometimes 500km light appears liao... funny & weird it has been happenin for the past 1yr
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yeah walker, same here.. normally i would refill 40l fuel , usin the same grade, travellin the same route daily on a constant speed at times i can clocked 610km max but sometimes 500km light appears liao... funny & weird it has been happenin for the past 1yr
:blink: My best record is 470k only.....500-600km cannot imagine? travel highway often huh? or is it yours a premium?
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whats our tank capacity?
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anyone heard or tried on the EPS Saver? does it really reduce ur FC??
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whats our tank capacity?
45L
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45L
My last full tank of 45L, light up at 372km....am I facing some problem here?
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My last full tank of 45L, light up at 372km....am I facing some problem here?
When light lit, there should still be reserve of about 7-8 litre. Assuming that you have top up your tank, this means you had used about 37-38 litre for 372 km. This FC about 10km/L does not seem impressive as some bro/sis here get 14-16 km/L. Of course, this depend on your travel pattern too. Myself, so far, best is 14+ and worse is 12+ km per litre.
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My last full tank of 45L, light up at 372km....am I facing some problem here?
quite normal lah. dun wori. my previous tank only gv me abt 365 km nia :crycry: but used to it liao. dun think got anytime over 400km mark :weep:
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When light lit, there should still be reserve of about 7-8 litre. Assuming that you have top up your tank, this means you had used about 37-38 litre for 372 km. This FC about 10km/L does not seem impressive as some bro/sis here get 14-16 km/L. Of course, this depend on your travel pattern too. Myself, so far, best is 14+ and worse is 12+ km per litre.
Envy yr figures...travelling pattern...travelling most during the usual rush hour with Jam.
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quite normal lah. dun wori. my previous tank only gv me abt 365 km nia :crycry: but used to it liao. dun think got anytime over 400km mark :weep:
What's yr figure now?
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I have my tyres at 265kPa up front and 235kPa rear. At these pressures, I don't think we have to worry about uneven wear on the tyres. Most tyres are more prone to uneven wear from underinflation. Also, inflating to higher pressures means the tyre suffers less deformation while rolling at high speeds and that contributes to lower operating temperatures on the highway.
One crazy theory I have is that TCM technicians have to rev the engines hard as part of their checks and this may upset the ECU somewhat so that you may need to "teach" the ECU to return to your usual frugal fuel sipping drive style.
I think 12km/l for 10%HW is an excellent figure. It is very difficult to get good mileage with A/C blasting and if you make only short trips. The engine is rather inefficient before it reaches operating temperature. Also, a cold transmission has a nasty habit of not locking up the torque converter.
Try to:
- Time traffic lights so you don't have to stop
- Leave more space in front of you so you brake less often
- Turn off your engine at stopped at lights that take forever to change- Do not warm up you engine by idling. Just start and drive off at a relaxed pace
u sure abt this bro..??
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quite normal lah. dun wori. my previous tank only gv me abt 365 km nia :crycry: but used to it liao. dun think got anytime over 400km mark :weep:
You drive like a Rex? :blink:
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You drive like a Rex? :blink:
or his car behaves like a rex?? :bleh: :bleh:
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Dear Bros & sis
I confirm the following observation...
My driving conditions worsen lately a bit...more jams, changed to Esso 5000 full tank on my last pump last Friday, only today I need to top it up, mileage clocked is 421.5, pumped a total of 38.75L, I turn on aircon all the way, no more shutting off aircon..
Conclusion, despite worsen driving conditions, changing to Esso 5K seems to improve mileage and pickup power. last time when I use SPC 98, can manage only at best 380, plus I off air-con frequently......
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Dear Bros & sis
I confirm the following observation...
My driving conditions worsen lately a bit...more jams, changed to Esso 5000 full tank on my last pump last Friday, only today I need to top it up, mileage clocked is 421.5, pumped a total of 38.75L, I turn on aircon all the way, no more shutting off aircon..
Conclusion, despite worsen driving conditions, changing to Esso 5K seems to improve mileage and pickup power. last time when I use SPC 98, can manage only at best 380, plus I off air-con frequently......
Only 1 tank and you able to conclude? No hurry, run a few more tanks first. :smile:
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Only 1 tank and you able to conclude? No hurry, run a few more tanks first. :smile:
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before that I already tried Esso before, but that was before i get Esso card, so I stop for a while use SPC,
I tried before Esso5000 and 8000, gave me very good mileage, Caltex too, 4 Tanks of SPC later I come forum here to scream for help..
so now U know why I conclude...
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anyone heard or tried on the EPS Saver? does it really reduce ur FC??
My personal opinion, don't waste your money on magnet kinda stuffs. If a $99 magnet can perform miracle than it won't be so cheap liao.
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Ok..did the test and the result is out for me.
Pump SGD20 of Ron95 - 9.24L when my light up, just now my light turn up at 97.3km, so this give me - 10.5km/L
Is this bad?
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Ok..did the test and the result is out for me.
Pump SGD20 of Ron95 - 9.24L when my light up, just now my light turn up at 97.3km, so this give me - 10.5km/L
Is this bad?
You shld be pumping at least 10L to make good judgement
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You shld be pumping at least 10L to make good judgement
Cos i pump accordingly to $amount...SGD20, SGD50...by Liters will be better?
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Cos i pump accordingly to $amount...SGD20, SGD50...by Liters will be better?
we measure mileage by liter consumed mah, no logic to measure by $ leh...
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we measure mileage by liter consumed mah, no logic to measure by $ leh...
ok...will try 10L later n see what I get...I shld get 105km b4 the light goes up....
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we measure mileage by liter consumed mah, no logic to measure by $ leh...
Actually measure by $ is the same as long as you know how many litre you pumped. You will then take the distance travelled divide by the number of litre. Actually, the light lit up also not very accurate one. Ever encounter that the low fuel light was on, then it went off by itself after a short while (about 2 minutes) while I was on highway. Then on permanent again. Then I top up near my home.
At times when I really want to know the FC for that tank, I will do the following: (though some bro/sis may not like the method and have their own ways)
(1) Top up to the brink. (Do need to note how many litre was pump in.)
(2) Travel any distance (be it 3/4 mark, 1/2 mark/ 1/4 mark or even light on).
(3) Top up to the brink (and take note how many litre pumped in).
(4) Take distance travel divide by total litre pump in item (3) above.
(Reason: Topping up to the brink will give a more accurate measurement on how much petrol is used to travel the distance mentioned in item 92) above.)
To get average FC for a few tanks to be more accurate, then repeat the above for a few tanks. Based on one tank may not be accurate if during that period you happened to be caught in extremely bad jam, did a lot of waiting while engine and air-con on, etc.
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What's yr figure now?
my last 3 tank on shell 95 was 11.8x, 12.05 and 11.04. now I am on Esso 8000. see would this help :confused1:
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Hi guys/gals,
This is my first post. Only attended meet-up once in the dark at Marina South.
Collected car on 8th Dec/2007, initially with 38km on the oddometer when filling up at the petrol station. After nearly 5 months, have reached 13,810km at the 28th top-up yesterday, 1st May/2008, cumulative total of 1025.77 litres, mainly ExxonMobil Red 5000(95 octane), did try Blue 2000(92 octane, but didn't like the feel), never pumped Green 98 or any Octane 98 before.
Therefore, (13810-38)km divide by 1025.77litres= about 13.463km/litre on average. I drive a yellow Latio hatch 4AT with about 60/40 xpressway/city pattern. Topping-up normally auto-stop, set on slowest notch of nozzle; no forced feeding to brim.
Noticed following:
a) auto-stop at full normally has fuel pointer slightly above "F"',
b) reaches 45 to 50km at "F" mark,
c) car reaches about 120km at quarter mark,
d) reaches about 250km at half mark,
e) reaches about 390 to 400km at three quarters mark,
f) reaches about 470 to 480 when fuel light comes on.
Last 2 tanks averaged 14.1km/l(but alot on expressway...say 70%).
Car now on 5W30 fully synthetic engine oil, changed out at 11k servicing.
Used to drive a Jazz which gave 14 to 15+km/l even after 4-1/2 years.
CHEERS!...uncle susa.
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Guys, when the fuel drop to E, how long more can we travel to get into reserve tank? I never get until light up. (safe or not) Scare half way no petrol. :bleh: ::)
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Guys, when the fuel drop to E, how long more can we travel to get into reserve tank? I never get until light up. (safe or not) Scare half way no petrol. :bleh: ::)
My experience is that the light will lit up before it reaches the E mark. After the light lit up, some bros have tried going for more than 100 km more. Myself tested 50 km after light up. Dare not push too far. Scarly caught in a bad traffic jam, then jilat liao.
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My experience is that the light will lit up before it reaches the E mark. After the light lit up, some bros have tried going for more than 100 km more. Myself tested 50 km after light up. Dare not push too far. Scarly caught in a bad traffic jam, then jilat liao.
Another 50km-100km? Hmm.. Means end up, when the light shine up, another 50km is no problem?? Feel risky thou :pray: :pray: :pray:
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Another 50km-100km? Hmm.. Means end up, when the light shine up, another 50km is no problem?? Feel risky thou :pray: :pray: :pray:
I think it is psychological. As mentioned, some bros tried beyond 100km. I tried about 50km. Better be safe than sorry. Image the trouble if your car is stopped in the middle of an expressway, not to mention that it will cause inconvenience to others too, especially if this happens during the peak hour.
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I think it is psychological. As mentioned, some bros tried beyond 100km. I tried about 50km. Better be safe than sorry. Image the trouble if your car is stopped in the middle of an expressway, not to mention that it will cause inconvenience to others too, especially if this happens during the peak hour.
That's exactly what I meant. :zipped: I shall try till it flash and carry on until 50km before I hit to petrol station. :D
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I have tried to drive more than 120km after lights up (530km lights up, pump fuel at 653km).
It was not a good experience though, as I was stuck at PIE when my odo shown 630km, stuck for a good 20 minutes.
The fuel needle is just slightly below the "E". I top up the tank with 41L, meaning still have about 4L in the tank. So by calculation, I could go beyond 700km! :scared:
Nowadays, I pump in at around 600km, try to be safe than be sorry. :out:
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I have tried to drive more than 120km after lights up (530km lights up, pump fuel at 653km).
It was not a good experience though, as I was stuck at PIE when my odo shown 630km, stuck for a good 20 minutes.
The fuel needle is just slightly below the "E". I top up the tank with 41L, meaning still have about 4L in the tank. So by calculation, I could go beyond 700km! :scared:
Nowadays, I pump in at around 600km, try to be safe than be sorry. :out:
A quick calcuation shows that your FC is almost 16km/litre. Very good leh.
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My FC has been dropping from 17 to 14 for my trip from Muar to JB 2nd link petrol stn. Usually i will get that FC rate.
But normal FC in sg shld be abt 13km/l. but recently my FC has dropped to 11.x km/l , kek sim.
FC is impt, i will service my 17km this wkend, with full synthetic oil, hopefully the FC will improve, also, may need to chk the tyres condition n pressure.
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In a way, our car petrol is about 45litre?
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In a way, our car petrol is about 45litre?
Latio petrol tank capacity is 45L. (You can check the catalogue.)
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Latio petrol tank capacity is 45L. (You can check the catalogue.)
incl or exclude reserve tank? how much is our reserve tank?
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incl or exclude reserve tank? how much is our reserve tank?
45L is total capacity. The term "reserve" is used rather loosely here. Doubt there is a physical reserve tank separate from the "main" tank.
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incl or exclude reserve tank? how much is our reserve tank?
inclusive of reserved tank lah.....normally lite up & up go petrol stn to pump can only pump to to approx 35l. The bal ~10l is our reserved :bleh:
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inclusive of reserved tank lah.....normally lite up & up go petrol stn to pump can only pump to to approx 35l. The bal ~10l is our reserved :bleh:
The word "reserve" gives some ppl the wrong impression that there are two physical tanks, a main tank and a reserve tank. Maybe should change the term "reserve tank" to another word to reflect that it is the amount of petrol left after the lower fuel light lit up. My vocab limited, any suggestion on such a term?
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The word "reserve" gives some ppl the wrong impression that there are two physical tanks, a main tank and a reserve tank. Maybe should change the term "reserve tank" to another word to reflect that it is the amount of petrol left after the lower fuel light lit up. My vocab limited, any suggestion on such a term?
Still to reserve tank is better understanding. :bleh:
Once the fuel light comes on, means main tank empty and now goes to reserve which contain 10l of petrol. :zipped:
Should have driven another 50km before I pump. :D
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A quick calcuation shows that your FC is almost 16km/litre. Very good leh.
Yah, consistantly getting around 15km/l to 17km/l for my travel pattern.
Yesterday just try pumping V-Power, want to see how good is this fuel! All along, I'm using Esso 5000 (95).
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Yah, consistantly getting around 15km/l to 17km/l for my travel pattern.
Yesterday just try pumping V-Power, want to see how good is this fuel! All along, I'm using Esso 5000 (95).
So far, never smell 15km/L before. At best was 14.2.
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So far, never smell 15km/L before. At best was 14.2.
Mine is abt there too. So long we are at 14km plus, good enough tho. :w00t: Anymore is a plus bonus :pray:
I was told that adding Volt Stabilizer and change better Air Filter will increase FC too. Saving money for that. :D
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Mine is abt there too. So long we are at 14km plus, good enough tho. :w00t: Anymore is a plus bonus :pray:
I was told that adding Volt Stabilizer and change better Air Filter will increase FC too. Saving money for that. :D
isit proven? lidat i can psyco my dad to get it :yehyeh:
but i thought air filter = allows more combusion rate = burn more fuel?
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isit proven? lidat i can psyco my dad to get it :yehyeh:
but i thought air filter = allows more combusion rate = burn more fuel?
:zipped: :zipped: :zipped: :zipped: :zipped:
I dunno those. :D :bleh: But I will want to try it by changing to K&N. I might be buying from Amazon and have it send to vPost USA before sending to Singapore. Total cost saving is about $20 after calculation.
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:zipped: :zipped: :zipped: :zipped: :zipped:
I dunno those. :D :bleh: But I will want to try it by changing to K&N. I might be buying from Amazon and have it send to vPost USA before sending to Singapore. Total cost saving is about $20 after calculation.
Hi Xuan 511 and Josho, you may want to see the page on "mod" to find out more. Seems like some type of air filter needs higher maintenance cost and end up they change back to original. Remembered reading some threads on air filter.
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Hi Xuan 511 and Josho, you may want to see the page on "mod" to find out more. Seems like some type of air filter needs higher maintenance cost and end up they change back to original. Remembered reading some threads on air filter.
just a brief discussion to increase FC =P
btw u address us too formal liao.. casual abit leh =P
:yehyeh: :yehyeh:
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Hi Xuan 511 and Josho, you may want to see the page on "mod" to find out more. Seems like some type of air filter needs higher maintenance cost and end up they change back to original. Remembered reading some threads on air filter.
Thankz man... Recently my memory failing.. :crycry: I am looking at K&N filter, will read up abt it
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just a brief discussion to increase FC =P
btw u address us too formal liao.. casual abit leh =P
:yehyeh: :yehyeh:
Haha. Sure. Habit from work, I suppose. Customer service ma. Got to be polite. Chinese saying "Manners more, people don't blame".
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just to update fellow members, after gone for 5K service, my FC increase tremendously. From 10.X++ to 12.X+++
they told me changed air and oil filter. m last full tank is Esso 5K, now trying out Esso 2K, but Esso 2K like burning up fast...looks not so good
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just to update fellow members, after gone for 5K service, my FC increase tremendously. From 10.X++ to 12.X+++
they told me changed air and oil filter. m last full tank is Esso 5K, now trying out Esso 2K, but Esso 2K like burning up fast...looks not so good
Are you trying to say your FC improved or decrease instead? ;)
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Are you trying to say your FC improved or decrease instead? ;)
Improved :yehyeh:
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wa seh good leh :thumbsup:
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Improved :yehyeh:
Good Good! :cool2:
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Try amsoil engine oil and your FC will improve further
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Try amsoil engine oil and your FC will improve further
duno is sway or wat. Have changed to Amsoil 0-20 after 10K servicing. FC still maintain at 11-12. never hit 13km/l before
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duno is sway or wat. Have changed to Amsoil 0-20 after 10K servicing. FC still maintain at 11-12. never hit 13km/l before
did you step on acceleration too hard? I dunno is it due to the oil is thinner, rev can be quite high. My petrol drop to almost half when it it's only at 170km mileage! :out:
But it's ok to observe ::)
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hi all. usually i will pump till the 'click' sound, then i stop. so is easier to monitor.. i get about 510 to 515km till the empty light up.. then i pump about 34 litres.. is usually the case.. so far haven pump more than 35 litres yet..
just wanna find out, how much mileage do u hit when the needle reach the first quarter point ? today i only manage about 70km.. usually nearly 100km.. duno why suddenly drop.. i just add a sub at my boot, surely this wun cause so much difference ?
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If your sub is placed in a wooden shelve (or whatever you call it), got amp.. etc.. it will somehow affect tho. :devil2: I think only
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Driver please note :
Watched Discovery Channel/National Geographic last weekend (I forgot which programme), one of the show mentioned this :
DO NOT TOP UP YOUR CAR'S FUEL TANK AFTER THE PUMP NOZZLE STOP, AS SOME SPACE IS NEEDED FOR VAPOR GAS INSIDE THE FUEL TANK. IF FILL TILL OPENING, THEN THE VAPOR GAS WILL HAVE NO WAY TO GO AND PRESSURE WILL BE BUILDUP INSIDE THE TANK, IT WILL BECOME VERY DANGEROUS, JUST LIKE A BOMB!
Well, guess I will have to change my habit, as I usually top up my fuel till almost flowing out :zipped: :zipped: :zipped:
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DO NOT TOP UP YOUR CAR'S FUEL TANK AFTER THE PUMP NOZZLE STOP, AS SOME SPACE IS NEEDED FOR VAPOR GAS INSIDE THE FUEL TANK. IF FILL TILL OPENING, THEN THE VAPOR GAS WILL HAVE NO WAY TO GO AND PRESSURE WILL BE BUILDUP INSIDE THE TANK, IT WILL BECOME VERY DANGEROUS, JUST LIKE A BOMB!
I think even you pump till the tip, there's still some allowance. Unless you tilt the car with a choke (like those petrol exploiters in JB) then that will cover up the allowance.
Cheers.
KEL.
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Hi Bros
but I thought there is a drain hole near the brim that will drain out excess or spillage to somewhere......
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Hi Bros
but I thought there is a drain hole near the brim that will drain out excess or spillage to somewhere......
Back into the tank. Like our wash basin.
Cheers.
KEL.
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Driver please note :
Watched Discovery Channel/National Geographic last weekend (I forgot which programme), one of the show mentioned this :
DO NOT TOP UP YOUR CAR'S FUEL TANK AFTER THE PUMP NOZZLE STOP, AS SOME SPACE IS NEEDED FOR VAPOR GAS INSIDE THE FUEL TANK. IF FILL TILL OPENING, THEN THE VAPOR GAS WILL HAVE NO WAY TO GO AND PRESSURE WILL BE BUILDUP INSIDE THE TANK, IT WILL BECOME VERY DANGEROUS, JUST LIKE A BOMB!
Well, guess I will have to change my habit, as I usually top up my fuel till almost flowing out :zipped: :zipped: :zipped:
Damn.
I always control the pump myself without let the pump nozzle control it.
So how? Ma de.
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Damn.
I always control the pump myself without let the pump nozzle control it.
So how? Ma de.
U :thumbsup:let the pump attandent relax... :bleh:
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Mannn, I kena 15+ to 13+km/l sia after went for servicing.. :faint:
Don't know is it because changes of engine oil :prrr: :cursing:
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U :thumbsup: let the pump attandent relax... :bleh:
hi
so how how how???
oh, i got what u mean, i pumped in msia, all DIY one...
i donno y in SG, why got attandents attend to us? :(
regards.
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hi
so how how how???
oh, i got what u mean, i pumped in msia, all DIY one...
i donno y in SG, why got attandents attend to us? :(
regards.
Packaging ma... Give those uncle work to do as well... so that there's income tho... I reckon :bleh:
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Packaging ma... Give those uncle work to do as well... so that there's income tho... I reckon :bleh:
We pay double the fuel price for that service mah...M'sia half price, self service!
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We pay double the fuel price for that service mah...M'sia half price, self service!
Hmm... you are right?? But pump by urself dun have 50% off! :devil2: Let the pump attendant work but they full blast and made a lot of petrol evaporate... :out:
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just finished my 1st tank (till the fuel light appear - roungly 38 litres)
only manage to clock a fc of 11km/l >> is this normal for 1st tank???
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just finished my 1st tank (till the fuel light appear - roungly 38 litres)
only manage to clock a fc of 11km/l >> is this normal for 1st tank???
i think is normal. i got 11.5km/l for my 1st tank too.....
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just finished my 1st tank (till the fuel light appear - roungly 38 litres)
only manage to clock a fc of 11km/l >> is this normal for 1st tank???
my 1st tank 14......50/50 traffic.....
nowadays 11~12..... also 50/50 traffic
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just finished my 1st tank (till the fuel light appear - roungly 38 litres)
only manage to clock a fc of 11km/l >> is this normal for 1st tank???
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mine always maintain at around 13km/L + from start...
11km/l is abit high FC liao.
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bcos i am more on urban driving. Abt 20%HW & 80%City
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Guys how do you calculate your FC? Recently I been pumping the petrol when it reaches E. Today I pumped the petrol almost half tank and the calculation seem not tally.
Calculation is: (Mileage Driven) divide (current litre been pumped) ? Am I right? I'm not the one who did the calculation tho.
My math is terrible a failure :bleh:
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i used to count my FC also by pumping when meter reaches E.
but now with the oil prices going up and up, its good to pump every now and then and save that 1 - 2 bucks.
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i used to count my FC also by pumping when meter reaches E.
but now with the oil prices going up and up, its good to pump every now and then and save that 1 - 2 bucks.
Ya, I agree. With the increase of petrol, pump faster better. :out:
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just clocked my super FC..... 350km when light came up!!!!
used to average 450..... dunno wat happened.... everythingy the same as routine :glare:
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just clocked my super FC..... 350km when light came up!!!!
used to average 450..... dunno wat happened.... everythingy the same as routine :glare:
U more hiong then me!!! 350km! u didn't change anything at all? petrol?
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U more hiong then me!!! 350km! u didn't change anything at all? petrol?
still shell.... but VPower (using Shell 95 since Oct 06'.... only last tank is Vpower)
but prior to tat already have sign liao..... so trying to 1st change the black air filter (let engine "breath" better).... then change tat ******** "fastflo" (which I feel is already gone @ 7K)
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just clocked my super FC..... 350km when light came up!!!!
used to average 450..... dunno wat happened.... everythingy the same as routine :glare:
Yours is CVT or 4AT ???
cheers
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still shell.... but VPower (using Shell 95 since Oct 06'.... only last tank is Vpower)
but prior to tat already have sign liao..... so trying to 1st change the black air filter (let engine "breath" better).... then change tat s***** "fastflo" (which I feel is already gone @ 7K)
Hi Manz
I just started to use VPower (@ Msia @ RM2.15 per Litre).
Can feel the 'power' vs the Mobil F1.
VPower = RM2.15/L
Mobil F1 = RM1.92/L
After I serviced my 18k km @ KL 2wks ago, my FC improved to 13.5km/L liao (with Mobil fuel). Btw, before servicing, the FC dropped to 11km/L (after my 10k service@TCM w free mineral oil fr TCM!)
Yesterday, @ JB 2nd Link I pumped to full tank, the FC was abt 13.5km/L also. Look like not much improvement btw VPower & Mobil F1.
I may continue to pump Mobil F1 @ RM1.92 liao even though VPower feels more powerful.
What do u guys think abt it?
Pls share.
Regards.
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just clocked my super FC..... 350km when light came up!!!!
used to average 450..... dunno wat happened.... everythingy the same as routine :glare:
Last Saturday, when my orange light was ON, my meter showed 488km liao. Haha (dun say i hao lian hor)....
Next day (Sunday), i went to pumped Shell VPower when it showed 520km + -, i pumped 38litres+abit to full tank. Sui!!!!
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Yours is CVT or 4AT ???
cheers
CVT :smile:
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Last Saturday, when my orange light was ON, my meter showed 488km liao. Haha (dun say i hao lian hor)....
Next day (Sunday), i went to pumped Shell VPower when it showed 520km + -, i pumped 38litres+abit to full tank. Sui!!!!
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CVT :smile:
FamilyManz
u drive too fiercely?
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Oh dear , my co. firewall block that url, what is the gif icon abt?
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FamilyManz
u drive too fiercely?
I already mentioned everything is the same as routine mah.....
I dun pump Pak Lar oil.... so aint heavy footed
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I already mentioned everything is the same as routine mah.....
I dun pump Pak Lar oil.... so aint heavy footed
how often you pump your tyres ?? shd pump every 2 weeks
oso aircon and driving pattern City / HW counts
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how often you pump your tyres ?? shd pump every 2 weeks
oso aircon and driving pattern City / HW counts
my pattern very consistent..... bi-monthly i will check..... since my 1st car 7 years back :smile:
aircon rah..... driving route rah.... pattern rah..... damn routine..... sent kids/wife, go work, pick kids/wife...... daily routine beri fixed :cool2:
tats why Im perplexed..... if there is significant noise.... I wont even wanna mention rah :bleh:
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my pattern very consistent..... bi-monthly i will check..... since my 1st car 7 years back :smile:
aircon rah..... driving route rah.... pattern rah..... damn routine..... sent kids/wife, go work, pick kids/wife...... daily routine beri fixed :cool2:
tats why Im perplexed..... if there is significant noise.... I wont even wanna mention rah :bleh:
you forgot to mentioned, you very low usage also... ::)
btw... have you changed your tires?
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still shell.... but VPower (using Shell 95 since Oct 06'.... only last tank is Vpower)
but prior to tat already have sign liao..... so trying to 1st change the black air filter (let engine "breath" better).... then change tat s***** "fastflo" (which I feel is already gone @ 7K)
My personal experience with V Power is that it gives a smoother ride with better power, but a much lower milage. That is, you got a smoother and more powerful ride, but at the expense of higher cost per litre and lower milage per litre. Not sure if anyone else have the same experience when they pump V Power.
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My personal experience with V Power is that it gives a smoother ride with better power, but a much lower milage. That is, you got a smoother and more powerful ride, but at the expense of higher cost per litre and lower milage per litre. Not sure if anyone else have the same experience when they pump V Power.
for me, my normal use is 98, tried VPower during their promotion, smoother ride and FC slightly improves by abt 10%,
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My personal experience with V Power is that it gives a smoother ride with better power, but a much lower milage. That is, you got a smoother and more powerful ride, but at the expense of higher cost per litre and lower milage per litre. Not sure if anyone else have the same experience when they pump V Power.
With v-power, i have a slightly better fc than shell 98. The ride is much powerful especially when the aircon is off. I can feel the power when moving off after red light.
btw, mine is cvt sedan. usually on shell 98.
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Whats ur tires air pressure?? Damn.. i dun go pump .. :(
Familyman bro, ur nick in MCF is hiphooray? :zipped:
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you forgot to mentioned, you very low usage also... ::)
btw... have you changed your tires?
low usage got nuthin to do with change in FC mah :bleh:
not yet.... but soon.... might be going with Josho :cool2:
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Whats ur tires air pressure?? Damn.. i dun go pump .. :(
Familyman bro, ur nick in MCF is hiphooray? :zipped:
FamilyManz is Familymanz in all forum....
hiphooray, though also a parent of 2.... is an ex OPC lancer turn 2nd hand normal plate Sonata owner :bleh:
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FamilyManz is Familymanz in all forum....
hiphooray, though also a parent of 2.... is an ex OPC lancer turn 2nd hand normal plate Sonata owner :bleh:
Lols. Koz talking almost the same with the 'rah' :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
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low usage got nuthin to do with change in FC mah :bleh:
not yet.... but soon.... might be going with Josho :cool2:
what is your mileage now?
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for me, my normal use is 98, tried VPower during their promotion, smoother ride and FC slightly improves by abt 10%,
If using VPower can increase 10% of your mileage, then suggest you pumped VPower coz the price different from 98 is less than 10%. :D
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If using VPower can increase 10% of your mileage, then suggest you pumped VPower coz the price different from 98 is less than 10%. :D
about there lah... usual with 98 is about 14++ to 15+, the last one with VPower is 16++, so abt 10%
anyway... currently back to Caltex... not happy with Shell to increase price first..
(the last two month, I use shell because Caltex raise price first)
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If using VPower can increase 10% of your mileage, then suggest you pumped VPower coz the price different from 98 is less than 10%. :D
iagree.
if vpower can help us to save 10% to 20% of fuel, then shld maintain , to use Vpower instead.
but i thk is all depend on our foot lah. the measurement is not guaranteed and not accurate.
in sg, i pump mobil95 oni, cheapest one.
regards.
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about there lah... usual with 98 is about 14++ to 15+, the last one with VPower is 16++, so abt 10%
anyway... currently back to Caltex... not happy with Shell to increase price first..
(the last two month, I use shell because Caltex raise price first)
So you also boycotting those station that increase fuel price first. :D
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iagree.
if vpower can help us to save 10% to 20% of fuel, then shld maintain , to use Vpower instead.
but i thk is all depend on our foot lah. the measurement is not guaranteed and not accurate.
in sg, i pump mobil95 oni, cheapest one.
regards.
Our right foot plus unnecessary weight. :D
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So you also boycotting those station that increase fuel price first. :D
thats correct (as a matter of principle)
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Lols. Koz talking almost the same with the 'rah' :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
he copy me rah :bleh:
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what is your mileage now?
27.5K :bleh:
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rah rah rah... :bleh: :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
Vpower.. hmm.. still calculating which station give me better $$$ :D
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Our right foot plus unnecessary weight. :D
oh, iagree w u aso.
ah pui and ah san po make alot of diff leh....
rah!
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btw, what is 'rah'? :) a substitude for 'nah'? :)
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Just to share, abt 1 mnth since 5K servicing never bother to check tyres, then the steering feel very heavy, then I go caltex air pump check Wah piang Horrified.!!
Front tyres 170-183Kpa
Rear tyres 150-160+ kpa
then during this period, my FC like KNS, 11-12, quickly pump front to 245 rear 225, then now driving feel shiok, my last quater tank then I go pump air but due to making whole work week to tuas from changi, my FC was like 14.5 having 3/4 of my tank wasted on lousy tyre pressure! :mad:
now on good tyre pressure FC seems to increase tremendously......looks like its the tyre pressure all along..
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Just to share, abt 1 mnth since 5K servicing never bother to check tyres, then the steering feel very heavy, then I go caltex air pump check Wah piang Horrified.!!
Front tyres 170-183Kpa
Rear tyres 150-160+ kpa
then during this period, my FC like KNS, 11-12, quickly pump front to 245 rear 225, then now driving feel shiok, my last quater tank then I go pump air but due to making whole work week to tuas from changi, my FC was like 14.5 having 3/4 of my tank wasted on lousy tyre pressure! :mad:
now on good tyre pressure FC seems to increase tremendously......looks like its the tyre pressure all along..
yups of course, must always maintain good pressure for good FC =D
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what is the ideal air pressure for our tyres that majority of our bros here pump? Any standard pressure for both front & back?
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what is the ideal air pressure for our tyres that majority of our bros here pump? Any standard pressure for both front & back?
For Stock tyres, shld be 230 front and 210 back.
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what is the ideal air pressure for our tyres that majority of our bros here pump? Any standard pressure for both front & back?
can see the sticker on pillar at driver side
these are cold tyre pressures
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Just to share, abt 1 mnth since 5K servicing never bother to check tyres, then the steering feel very heavy, then I go caltex air pump check Wah piang Horrified.!!
Front tyres 170-183Kpa
Rear tyres 150-160+ kpa
then during this period, my FC like KNS, 11-12, quickly pump front to 245 rear 225, then now driving feel shiok, my last quater tank then I go pump air but due to making whole work week to tuas from changi, my FC was like 14.5 having 3/4 of my tank wasted on lousy tyre pressure! :mad:
now on good tyre pressure FC seems to increase tremendously......looks like its the tyre pressure all along..
Good tire pressure still increase FC? Then why pumped? :blink: :confused1:
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my new latio 1 week old. first tank on esso 5000. 475km when orange light up. about 35litres.
on second tank now..shell 95 . I feel its more powerful and smoother. at quarter mark about 100km.
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For Stock tyres, shld be 230 front and 210 back.
My is 16 inch tyres, i ask bcos there are ppl that pump 240~250. Also can we pump all the 4 tyres to the same psi?
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Did bros here with FC problem manage to solve? I read thru saw alot of ppl with bad FC but did not see if they resolved it. Scary. Me on first tank, seems to be achieving somewhat near 14km/l, but I'm gonna pump Esso 5000 $40 again and see. The tank so big.. take quite long to finish :D
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i dunno good or not. I pump all 4 tyres 250 . average around 15 km/l or higher
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i dunno good or not. I pump all 4 tyres 250 . average around 15 km/l or higher
no good if u speed in HSHW.
too much will create more heats if we drive all the way to KL.
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bro rayson, frm my personal experience driving a lousy car (last time drive a 1996 model nissan march) i try to pump 2psi above spec to improve FC (fc for old car very bad, ard 10km/l although 1.0L engine) and it was very scary. my car would skid when roads are wet. not too fast. 50kph and a little more brake pressure enough to skid liao. but once i reduce the pressure back to recommended, the skidding reduced. i was using falken tyres. 155/70 R13. small tyres i know, but the theory is the same. if you are safety conscious the little drop in FC is worth it. for the latio i only pump 10kpa above spec (240 front/220 rear).
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When the pressure is pumped in say at 250, by end of the day it will drop a little, everyday a little bit will leak....
IMHO, i pump a little more so as to tahan the losses.
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Hi guys, I'm getting 450km out of 35 litres on 95 (caltex). tyre psi is 220(front) and 200(rear) on 15". Is this FC considered ok?
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Hi guys, I'm getting 450km out of 35 litres on 95 (caltex). tyre psi is 220(front) and 200(rear) on 15". Is this FC considered ok?
work out to be 12.8km/l...shld be ok ba...cos most ppl here getting 12-14km..some can even achieve 15km :thumbsup:
and yr tyre psi is a little below the recommended psi 230 (front) and 210 (rear)..try increasing it and see if can improve
yr FC.
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Hi guys, I'm getting 450km out of 35 litres on 95 (caltex). tyre psi is 220(front) and 200(rear) on 15". Is this FC considered ok?
Bro, you may consider to pump the tyre a bit more see whether can help to improve the FC. I pump 245 (front) and 225 (rear), no prob at all, so far can achieve 14 to 15km.
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When the pressure is pumped in say at 250, by end of the day it will drop a little, everyday a little bit will leak....
IMHO, i pump a little more so as to tahan the losses.
how do u know it drop alittle by the end of the day? u check everyday?
if so, leaking, sure hv problem? shld go for servicing n get them to chk leh?
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how do u know it drop alittle by the end of the day? u check everyday?
if so, leaking, sure hv problem? shld go for servicing n get them to chk leh?
leakage is considered normal, as long not "punk chek" :D
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Think slight loss of typre air of abt 10psi is normal, considering the distance travelled daily, temperature & weather....its a good habit to check & pump your tyres every fortnightly or so....but if sudden leakage the next day after pumping, think might have to check tyres if any nails or small holes needed to be patched up... :bleh:
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My tyres are at 265kPa front and 235kPa rear. So far so good. Lifetime fuel consumption is ~18.6km/L. Been keeping track since I bought the car. Worst tank was ~13.5km/L, best tank ever was ~22km/L. CVT, Caltex 95, everything stock, Castrol (GC) 0W30 engine oil.
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My tyres are at 265kPa front and 235kPa rear. So far so good. Lifetime fuel consumption is ~18.6km/L. Been keeping track since I bought the car. Worst tank was ~13.5km/L, best tank ever was ~22km/L. CVT, Caltex 95, everything stock, Castrol (GC) 0W30 engine oil.
Considered fantastic FC you have there. :thumbsup:
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My tyres are at 265kPa front and 235kPa rear. So far so good. Lifetime fuel consumption is ~18.6km/L. Been keeping track since I bought the car. Worst tank was ~13.5km/L, best tank ever was ~22km/L. CVT, Caltex 95, everything stock, Castrol (GC) 0W30 engine oil.
My Best is Only 13+ :cool2:
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My tyres are at 265kPa front and 235kPa rear. So far so good. Lifetime fuel consumption is ~18.6km/L. Been keeping track since I bought the car. Worst tank was ~13.5km/L, best tank ever was ~22km/L. CVT, Caltex 95, everything stock, Castrol (GC) 0W30 engine oil.
Well done bro :thumbsup:
I just using Castrol 0W30, still monitoring the results.
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My tyres are at 265kPa front and 235kPa rear. So far so good. Lifetime fuel consumption is ~18.6km/L. Been keeping track since I bought the car. Worst tank was ~13.5km/L, best tank ever was ~22km/L. CVT, Caltex 95, everything stock, Castrol (GC) 0W30 engine oil.
22km/L!!! :w00t: That's great manz! Max I achieved was abt 16.5km/L, almost 95% HW as travelling from Tamp to NTU daily... :bleh:
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My tyres are at 265kPa front and 235kPa rear. So far so good. Lifetime fuel consumption is ~18.6km/L. Been keeping track since I bought the car. Worst tank was ~13.5km/L, best tank ever was ~22km/L. CVT, Caltex 95, everything stock, Castrol (GC) 0W30 engine oil.
Oh
22km/L?
my best record was abt 19km/L... in msia...
you are so powerful. but not very accurate one lah, alot of factors inside... e.g. the road conditions, the person who drive the car, traffic conditions and so on
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wow... 22km/L...
meaning full tank 35L can go 700+km??
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wow... 22km/L...
meaning full tank 35L can go 700+km??
22km/l i thk is record liao.
anyway, our tank is 40litre right?
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22km/l i thk is record liao.
anyway, our tank is 40litre right?
I think is 45L , Around 35L-38L Fuel Light Up :blink:
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I think is 45L , Around 35L-38L Fuel Light Up :blink:
Double confirm its 45l, once I choing till super low tank then pump petrol, think I activated the reserve tank, when I pumped till full tank its abt 42l. That's how I got my 16.5km/l, but its nothing compared to 22km/l...wow! :w00t:
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my best record is 16++ km/l which was on NSHW. back here,.... sigh...... normally not over 12 :crycry:
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Hi guys, I'm getting 450km out of 35 litres on 95 (caltex). tyre psi is 220(front) and 200(rear) on 15". Is this FC considered ok?
i am doing only 11.5km/l on catlex silver leh..=(.. the tyre psi is 240(front), 230(back)
from what i see..mine is horrible... arrgghhh
now i am trying out 1.2 tank thingy >>> pump 20Litre per visit to petrol station to reduce weight
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Think slight loss of typre air of abt 10psi is normal, considering the distance travelled daily, temperature & weather....its a good habit to check & pump your tyres every fortnightly or so....but if sudden leakage the next day after pumping, think might have to check tyres if any nails or small holes needed to be patched up... :bleh:
i pump once everyweek when i go pump petrol..kill 2 birds with 1stone...
is this good ??
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i usually get 11km/L (which is bad already), after servicing 10,000 km and change to Amsoil 5w30 synthetic oil, my FC drop :crycry:
i thought synthetic can give better FC. I bought good oil, but FC drops. How come Faslo mineral oil give better FC?? :confused1: got anyone with similar situation?
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Mine is now abt 12km + -
First few mths, esply when it was below 1000km, i drive very slowly, max 90km/h. i think the FC was good due to the steady driving pattern.
After 5000km, i drive > 110km/h to 170km/h in NSHW! FC drop to abt 11 to 12km/l!
Sigh!
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my best record is 16++ km/l which was on NSHW. back here,.... sigh...... normally not over 12 :crycry:
could be due to the spore roads design. lot of stops and oso road congestion
cheers
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Dear all lations,
I also experiencing a drop in FC after 20K servicing (using 5w-30 armsoil engine oil). The worst is I feel there is a drop in power esp pickup in my latio after servicing? I really puzzled about this. :confused1:
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Dear all lations,
I also experiencing a drop in FC after 20K servicing (using 5w-30 armsoil engine oil). The worst is I feel there is a drop in power esp pickup in my latio after servicing? I really puzzled about this. :confused1:
drop in power maybe due to new oil bah. some of my frens told me just after changing new oil will feel that way. but for myself, after the 10k servicing, i dun feel any drop of power at all.
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In fact after changing the engine oil on my 10k servicing, there's no drop in power....instead more smooth during ride....
Bro Naruto, why u use 5w-30 oil? Won't it be too thick after only 20k km?
Bro Max: Your windscreen NISMO decal looks chio! Thinking of designing something similar too... ;)
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wah u all chiong siah 170kph.. is scary!! :scared: better have good tyres
try driving slow. keep to max 80/90kph. i think 80kph is about the best FC speed... 4AT gives me around 2000rpm at 80kph. any faster wind resistance will kill FC. wind resistance increases to the square of speed. so it is not linear!
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could be due to the spore roads design. lot of stops and oso road congestion
cheers
Yep, that is why I don't bother much about FC, too many factors. :D
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In fact after changing the engine oil on my 10k servicing, there's no drop in power....instead more smooth during ride....
Bro Naruto, why u use 5w-30 oil? Won't it be too thick after only 20k km?
Bro Max: Your windscreen NISMO decal looks chio! Thinking of designing something similar too... ;)
hi bro,
i think 5w30 mayb still ok lor. me now on 0w40. my feeling now is car abt more responsive compare to mineral oil. my wife feel that too. mayb pay $ liao must 'an wei' myself :bleh:.
as for the banner, it is readily available at autobac (J-Factory). me now actually looking for nismo checker design for my both side :devil2:
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Will try thinner oil next servicing. Really CMI in pickup. =p
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wah u all chiong siah 170kph.. is scary!! :scared: better have good tyres
try driving slow. keep to max 80/90kph. i think 80kph is about the best FC speed... 4AT gives me around 2000rpm at 80kph. any faster wind resistance will kill FC. wind resistance increases to the square of speed. so it is not linear!
oh, i drive CVT. CVT's 2000rpm can hit 100km/h.
170km/h i can feel the 'fast'. so normally i maintain at 160km/h max.
scare tyres tak boleh tahan leh....
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16000 + KM
Esso 92
Carlube 5w40 (if not wrong) - carefour promotion @ $29.90 type
hwy: 15%
city: 85%
move off at 2K rpm
avg FC: 11.5 KM/ltr
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Just pumped last night, ard 8pm at jb 2ndlink, my FC was abt 16.xxkm/L :)
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Just pumped last night, ard 8pm at jb 2ndlink, my FC was abt 16.xxkm/L :)
i really wonder how u guys can achieve such a good fc. mine never had :crycry:
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Just pumped last night, ard 8pm at jb 2ndlink, my FC was abt 16.xxkm/L :)
Good for you bro, I'm sure you managed to save abit $$$. Anyway, was travelling to & from Tamp to SAFTI for abt 100km daily for my reservist last week, managed to clock 17.9km/l for a full tank. Yeah that's my new record! :bleh:
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Good for you bro, I'm sure you managed to save abit $$$. Anyway, was travelling to & from Tamp to SAFTI for abt 100km daily for my reservist last week, managed to clock 17.9km/l for a full tank. Yeah that's my new record! :bleh:
nice la, mine is onli 13km/l 60hw/40city, no good lehh, thinking of adding VS and Itune spark spec 1 to try out :yehyeh:
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Good for you bro, I'm sure you managed to save abit $$$. Anyway, was travelling to & from Tamp to SAFTI for abt 100km daily for my reservist last week, managed to clock 17.9km/l for a full tank. Yeah that's my new record! :bleh:
Yo, good for you.
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Good for you bro, I'm sure you managed to save abit $$$. Anyway, was travelling to & from Tamp to SAFTI for abt 100km daily for my reservist last week, managed to clock 17.9km/l for a full tank. Yeah that's my new record! :bleh:
Still yet to hit 15km/l. :(
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Yo, good for you.
Thanks bro...my advice to always control our right foot to rev bet 2k-2.5k rev & between 90-95km/hr during overdrive should achieve better FC ::)
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Thanks bro...my advice to always control our right foot to rev bet 2k-2.5k rev & between 90-95km/hr during overdrive should achieve better FC ::)
Yo
Ya, 2000rpm can enjoy 100km/h speed for CVT. You are very right.
But,
If i am going to KL, sure speed one. When speed, will accelerate more.
But again,
You are right also, must control our right foot, because for CVT, we can slowly accelerate if there are no cars right in front of us, by slowly accelerate from 2000rpm (enjoy 100km/h) then slowly accelerate to 120km/h, that shld be able achieveable at 2200rpm or slightly more rpm. To enjoy 140km/h to 150km/h, i think 2400 to 2800rpm can hit liao!!! Still good FC at the end!!!
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Yo
Ya, 2000rpm can enjoy 100km/h speed for CVT. You are very right.
But,
If i am going to KL, sure speed one. When speed, will accelerate more.
But again,
You are right also, must control our right foot, because for CVT, we can slowly accelerate if there are no cars right in front of us, by slowly accelerate from 2000rpm (enjoy 100km/h) then slowly accelerate to 120km/h, that shld be able achieveable at 2200rpm or slightly more rpm. To enjoy 140km/h to 150km/h, i think 2400 to 2800rpm can hit liao!!! Still good FC at the end!!!
That's the 'beauty' of our ride....comfort & quiet engine during high speed together w rather moderate rev even at speed above 120km/hr....on hindside acceleration damn slow...but nothing beats the comfort feeling, still enjoying every moment of my ride... :D
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That's the 'beauty' of our ride....comfort & quiet engine during high speed together w rather moderate rev even at speed above 120km/hr....on hindside acceleration damn slow...but nothing beats the comfort feeling, still enjoying every moment of my ride... :D
darry
i have to AGREE again leh...!!!
good car but the parts are so so, esply the doors, when you close or open the door , got 'plastic' sound!
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darry
i have to AGREE again leh...!!!
good car but the parts are so so, esply the doors, when you close or open the door , got 'plastic' sound!
hee hee.. easily solve leh.. i went to do soundclad.. then did the door as well ... now got 'conti' door feel :thumbsup: just like my papa's renault.
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hee hee.. easily solve leh.. i went to do soundclad.. then did the door as well ... now got 'conti' door feel :thumbsup: just like my papa's renault.
hi latiorarri
si mi soundclad?
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hee hee.. easily solve leh.. i went to do soundclad.. then did the door as well ... now got 'conti' door feel :thumbsup: just like my papa's renault.
Where and what the damage? :smile:
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hi latiorarri
si mi soundclad?
I think I saw Soundclad during my free leather grooming at Sin Ming...Soundclad is a type of soundproofing that will reduce external noise during driving, personally have not ride on a car with soundclad...but heard positive feedback abt it...when close doors it sounds solid yet not 'plastic'...
Price-wise think its abt $120-$150...saw from the Commercial thread some bros offering similar service too... ;)
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I think I saw Soundclad during my free leather grooming at Sin Ming...Soundclad is a type of soundproofing that will reduce external noise during driving, personally have not ride on a car with soundclad...but heard positive feedback abt it...when close doors it sounds solid yet not 'plastic'...
Price-wise think its abt $120-$150...saw from the Commercial thread some bros offering similar service too... ;)
If I remembered correctly, it is not a one-off damage. Need to go for regular "check-up". If necessary, will have to do "treatment" to maintain level of soundproof.
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If I remembered correctly, it is not a one-off damage. Need to go for regular "check-up". If necessary, will have to do "treatment" to maintain level of soundproof.
Still need to maintain ? :scared:
If FOC ok lah. :smile:
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Still need to maintain ? :scared:
If FOC ok lah. :smile:
Not FOC. I not expert so don't know the "technical term" used. At least that was what I was told 3 years ago when I went to Sin Ming for the free leather conditioning. At that time, they also recommended me for a 6-in-1 don't know what type of package that include sound-proof, body paint protection, etc. Not cheap. Got budget constraint, so skip that all together. Think they mentioned spraying to fill/seal the gaps so that outside noise will be reduced. If the sprayed material dropped off, need to do patch up. (The soundproof way is different from others where they put layers to block out sound.)
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Still need to maintain ? :scared:
If FOC ok lah. :smile:
Ya, its the same as System 6...some bros requested their TCM SC to provide free System 6 & soundclad during purchase of their rides...but it'll last only abt 1 year...then on have to have annual check-up...maintainence fee quite ex.... :ohmy:
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Ya, its the same as System 6...some bros requested their TCM SC to provide free System 6 & soundclad during purchase of their rides...but it'll last only abt 1 year...then on have to have annual check-up...maintainence fee quite ex.... :ohmy:
I thought soundproof is a 1 time thing. :(
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hi guys, pia say pia say been MIA for a few days.
Yes, i did sound clad at the Sim Ming.
http://www.tuffi.com.sg/clad.html
So happened that my father's friend working there so i got the stuff done real cheap.. did Tuff Kote Dinol and Sound Clad. Didn't do system 6 caused aleady did CSII.
Yes, there is a yearly check up where they will check all the coatings and touch up if necessary. No fee charged UNLESS you need to redo extensive areas. highly unlikely lah. So far so good. :) almost 5 mths and 13K km liao.
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Does new car also need to pump tire every month in order to maintain the FC?
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Does new car also need to pump tire every month in order to maintain the FC?
think better chk it at least once every 2 wks lor. mine drop abt 25 kpa in 2 wks leh. no wonder fc so bad..... :weep:
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I thought soundproof is a 1 time thing. :(
Usually its annual check-up...but very often need to do maintainence repair that might make up the $$$ cost... :ohmy:
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hi guys, pia say pia say been MIA for a few days.
Yes, i did sound clad at the Sim Ming.
http://www.tuffi.com.sg/clad.html
So happened that my father's friend working there so i got the stuff done real cheap.. did Tuff Kote Dinol and Sound Clad. Didn't do system 6 caused aleady did CSII.
Yes, there is a yearly check up where they will check all the coatings and touch up if necessary. No fee charged UNLESS you need to redo extensive areas. highly unlikely lah. So far so good. :) almost 5 mths and 13K km liao.
Good for you bro...sounds like you have an extensive protection for your ride...btw how's the effect of sound clad? :cool2:
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Does new car also need to pump tire every month in order to maintain the FC?
Hi bro, its a good habit to check your tyre pressure every fortnightly or so...if wheels not adequately pumped will have a 'drag' effect on your ride, thus increasing your FC... :ohmy:
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Anyone know the pressure for stock latio sports tire?
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Anyone know the pressure for stock latio sports tire?
U can check the recommended tyre pressure at the driver's side door...think stock tyre should be 29-31...but think its alright to pump till 35...
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Anyone know the pressure for stock latio sports tire?
i pump 240 front and 235 back>>> within the limits stated in my car's sticker
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i pump 255 front, 245 back
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I think i shld chk my tyre pressures tonight.
My latest FC is abt 13.xx km/L, just pumped to full at JB yday.
Regards.
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Mine is 230 front and 210 back. Erm 1 newbie qns. When i pump, the pump gauge should i put to 230 if pumping front tire or the amount i need to pump in example 100 :confused1:
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Mine is 230 front and 210 back. Erm 1 newbie qns. When i pump, the pump gauge should i put to 230 if pumping front tire or the amount i need to pump in example 100 :confused1:
make sure its 230 when u pumping thou.
Why some of u guys had different pressure on front and back? Mine is 230 for front and back.
Recently FC also drop. No idea why is this so tho.
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make sure its 230 when u pumping thou.
Why some of u guys had different pressure on front and back? Mine is 230 for front and back.
Recently FC also drop. No idea why is this so tho.
Obviously you din noticed the manual or the notice on your side door panel. :smile:
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Good for you bro...sounds like you have an extensive protection for your ride...btw how's the effect of sound clad? :cool2:
Hahah yah loh.. first car i buy after saving for 4 years since working. :bleh: with regards to the sound clad hor, i really donno the difference leh.. cause the car still very new when i did. The only obvious difference was when immediately seat in, close door.. WOW :w00t: solid feel man.. but my wife still complain noise when big lorry pass by.. she compare with my FIL IS250 :crying: wah piang...
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Hahah yah loh.. first car i buy after saving for 4 years since working. :bleh: with regards to the sound clad hor, i really donno the difference leh.. cause the car still very new when i did. The only obvious difference was when immediately seat in, close door.. WOW :w00t: solid feel man.. but my wife still complain noise when big lorry pass by.. she compare with my FIL IS250 :crying: wah piang...
Haha, cannot compare w IS250 lah! Even thou both are Japanese made cars... :D
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Hahah yah loh.. first car i buy after saving for 4 years since working. :bleh: with regards to the sound clad hor, i really donno the difference leh.. cause the car still very new when i did. The only obvious difference was when immediately seat in, close door.. WOW :w00t: solid feel man.. but my wife still complain noise when big lorry pass by.. she compare with my FIL IS250 :crying: wah piang...
$IS250 = 2*$Latio
Using Direct Proportion,
Sound prooving of Latio = 1/2 IS250
:thumbsup:
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Well i would say i have no regrets getting a Latio :yehyeh:
AND i know one department that Latio sure beat IS250 flat flat.. :devil2: the back seat space :bleh:
every time i go out with my in-laws both want to sit behind hahaha.. because IS250 is rear wheel drive, the back seat centre arch very high.. seat 2 person still ok.. seat 3 very uncomfortable. and not much leg room.
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Well i would say i have no regrets getting a Latio :yehyeh:
AND i know one department that Latio sure beat IS250 flat flat.. :devil2: the back seat space :bleh:
every time i go out with my in-laws both want to sit behind hahaha.. because IS250 is rear wheel drive, the back seat centre arch very high.. seat 2 person still ok.. seat 3 very uncomfortable. and not much leg room.
i have to agree tooo.. the seat space (the back seat and the vehicle com seats ) are so spacious.. my gf always fall asleep when sitting in my car one haha
cosy place haha :thumbsup:
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Yes, the Latio is one of the most spacious and economical cars in its class, but sadly, people perceive Nissans to be fuel guzzlers (no thanks to the Sunny) and still swear by a Thai assembled Thaiyota or Honda (with Thai parts all round except for engine and gearbox), which is more expensive and has lower OMV than a Japan assembled Nissan.
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actually depends on how the sunny is driven lah.. before latio, my dad drove a Sunny EX (M) and my ex company 'loan' me a Sunny Ex (A) both are current models, manual one can hit ~570KM to 600KM before light on. Auto one ~ 520KM - 550KM before light on..
i think that's still pretty decent...
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I think our latio is using a high quality spark to start with, the stock Sunny uses the el'cheapo plugs. I have seen sunny go near 13km/l with the good sparks and better air filters. And of course for any car if you don't check your tyre and drive gently it's gonna be a guzzler. My 1.0L nissan march was doing 10.5km/l, before that a Renault Kangoo 1.4A 8km/l, then my parent's volvo S40 is 9.5km/l. So latio is leaps and bounds better than a lot of cars out there... for it's size!
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Hi Latiorarri,
"...manual one can hit ~570KM to 600KM before light on. Auto one ~ 520KM - 550KM before light on.."
How many km/litre does that translate to?
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i think they have a 45l tank too
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Hi Latiorarri,
"...manual one can hit ~570KM to 600KM before light on. Auto one ~ 520KM - 550KM before light on.."
How many km/litre does that translate to?
The fuel tank is 50L, usually pump abt ~45L so agar agar is 11KM/L
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hmnmmm but currently my 2+ mth latio FC ony is 11km/L average niah
not that good too leh
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hmnmmm but currently my 2+ mth latio FC ony is 11km/L average niah
not that good too leh
Is it because you city driving most of the time plus waiting with air-con for prolong period regularly?
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Is it because you city driving most of the time plus waiting with air-con for prolong period regularly?
hmmm dont think so leh.. Normally, i always drive from katong to tampines - PIE (drive my gf home) then back to sim drive - PIE (home) leh.
friday when pak tor>> i also go at most city hall or pasir ris niah.....
soi will say it is mainly 50% CT and HW.
for my air con is 25 degree , fan level 1 most of the time.
dont think this is the cause rite??
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hmnmmm but currently my 2+ mth latio FC ony is 11km/L average niah
not that good too leh
No scat lah.. ur car how many KMs liao?? BTW, Nissan sunny very very sensitive to fuel, i can only acheive this kind of mileage on Shell 95 or Caltex 95, no point pump 98, Vpower.. mileage will drop and engine become very rough.. donno why...
My after 2nd servicing consistency getting ~14KM/L.. record is 16.54KM/L :yehyeh:
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limck,
As your Latio is still new, allow it to run in and mileage will improve after some time.
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then have to be patience liao :cool2: :cool2:
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then have to be patience liao :cool2: :cool2:
Yeah bro...enjoy your ride, FC will improve as your mileage increases... ;D
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Obviously you din noticed the manual or the notice on your side door panel. :smile:
I didnt read at all. :bleh:
Beside some say all 230 some different. I go tyre shop also 230 for all. Im just wondering if there's any help on different tyre pressure better or all four same pressure.
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I didnt read at all. :bleh:
Beside some say all 230 some different. I go tyre shop also 230 for all. Im just wondering if there's any help on different tyre pressure better or all four same pressure.
Dun worry, initially I also dun bother. You cannot trust a tire shop, may due to their laziness or inexpertise to advise you. It good to have front tire higher rating due to the weight of the engine and FWD. :smile:
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Oh latio is FWD arh? HAHA I'm so damn suaku!
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Oh latio is FWD arh? HAHA I'm so damn suaku!
Yep, most of the cars nowadays is FWD to cut cost. :smile:
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aeh clarification hor :confused1:
FWD = Front wheel drive hor.. not Four wheel drive right :bleh:
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hmnmmm but currently my 2+ mth latio FC ony is 11km/L average niah
not that good too leh
Dun worry la....i join your grp. My car is 3mth old & my mileage is abt 4+ plus. My FC range from 10.5 to 11.5km/L nia. But i 30%HW & 70%city :bleh:
I really envy bro that achieve gd FC. Same type of car but diff FC :weep:
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I really envy bro that achieve gd FC. Same type of car but diff FC :weep:
Same car, diff FC ==> must hope that watever god we are praying to,better protect our latio and improve the FC :yehyeh:
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Dun worry, initially I also dun bother. You cannot trust a tire shop, may due to their laziness or inexpertise to advise you. It good to have front tire higher rating due to the weight of the engine and FWD. :smile:
Oh... I shall try 230 F, 210 B. Hope there's any changes. heh :zipped:
Gam Sia ah ::)
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no scat lah bros.. FC improves over time.. :thumbsup:
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aeh clarification hor :confused1:
FWD = Front wheel drive hor.. not Four wheel drive right :bleh:
FWD = Front Wheel Drive
4WD = 4 Wheel Drive (Can usually select 2WD for normal road driving)
AWD = All Wheel Drive
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Guys try pump ur tire. After i pump FC improves back :smile:
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Guys try pump ur tire. After i pump FC improves back :smile:
hello,congrat man.
but boi chun one lah. Relax.
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Other than inflating your tyres, make sure your wheels are properly aligned, and tyres balanced too.
Misaligned wheels cause unnecesary friction and wear and increases fuel consumption too.
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Other than inflating your tyres, make sure your wheels are properly aligned, and tyres balanced too.
Misaligned wheels cause unnecesary friction and wear and increases fuel consumption too.
To add on, make sure of proper servicing, especially changing of engine oil to protect your engine... ::)
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To add on, make sure of proper servicing, especially changing of engine oil to protect your engine... ::)
i do agree on this but for me>> have to wait for my 10K or 15K servicing then can change engine oil leh
so it so far far away :crycry:
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Latio synthetic engine oil change interval is 10K km, not 15K km.
But Daihatsu oil change interval is 15K km.
Which makes me wonder why some oils can last 10K km while some can last 15K km. :confused1:
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Latio synthetic engine oil change interval is 10K km, not 15K km.
But Daihatsu oil change interval is 15K km.
Which makes me wonder why some oils can last 10K km while some can last 15K km. :confused1:
actually not only the oil.. the oil filter also plays a part.
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Engine oil will deteriorate in its capability to lubricate the engine after extended use.
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actually somebody pls educate mi. the engine oil collects also all the deposits and dirt etc thats why it turn black, so usually mineral oil at 5k u change it, it is already abit blackish and contaminated... by 10k those using synthetic oil is black black already... isn't it better to just keep changing mineral oil in this case?
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This should answer your question
http://www.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/lubrication.htm
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This should answer your question
http://www.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/lubrication.htm
Nice info. :thumbsup:
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actually somebody pls educate mi. the engine oil collects also all the deposits and dirt etc thats why it turn black, so usually mineral oil at 5k u change it, it is already abit blackish and contaminated... by 10k those using synthetic oil is black black already... isn't it better to just keep changing mineral oil in this case?
That is why I use Lube Control 20 for my engine oil and FC 60 for my petrol, you may visit this website for more info: http://lubecontrol.com/ (http://lubecontrol.com/)
Clean, Lubricate and Protect Both Sides of your engine for Optimal Performance!
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That is why I use Lube Control 20 for my engine oil and FC 60 for my petrol, you may visit this website for more info: http://lubecontrol.com/ (http://lubecontrol.com/)
Clean, Lubricate and Protect Both Sides of your engine for Optimal Performance!
Hi, may be another alternavtive is the
ENGINE CARBON REMOVAL service @ SGD$20 from htyre@Bendemeer road
Short start-stop driving trips as well as prolonged idling are the main causes of carbon deposits in the combustion chamber. Carbon deposits on the back of intake valves can impede air flow & cause a loss of high speed power. It also causes hesitation problems by absorbing fuel spray from injectors.
The blasting equipment softens, loosens and removes stubborn carbon deposits. The results can be felt immediately with your petrol burned more effectively bringing about higher engine performance.
Come down to have your engine carbon removed at SGD$20 per flush.
cheers
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Hi, may be another alternavtive is the
ENGINE CARBON REMOVAL service @ SGD$20 from htyre@Bendemeer road
Short start-stop driving trips as well as prolonged idling are the main causes of carbon deposits in the combustion chamber. Carbon deposits on the back of intake valves can impede air flow & cause a loss of high speed power. It also causes hesitation problems by absorbing fuel spray from injectors.
The blasting equipment softens, loosens and removes stubborn carbon deposits. The results can be felt immediately with your petrol burned more effectively bringing about higher engine performance.
Come down to have your engine carbon removed at SGD$20 per flush.
cheers
Juz a noob qn: does TCM provide this during our servicing interval? :confused1:
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Hi all
this is my 1st noob post ;D
am getting strictly 11.5km/l, 80% city, 20% hwy.
something interesting on yahoo (video) today:
"UPS saves money, 3 million gallons of fuel just by turning right"
http://www.yahoo.com/s/925067
in Sg, since we drive on the LEFT, wonder if we can do the same and save on ga$ by turning LEFT ?
ie. plan (re-plan) our travel routes to minimize right turns that cut across traffic, which has higher probability of stopping to give way to oncoming traffic as compared to left turns.
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Hi, may be another alternavtive is the
ENGINE CARBON REMOVAL service @ SGD$20 from htyre@Bendemeer road
Come down to have your engine carbon removed at SGD$20 per flush.
cheers
Hi Bro, Can share what is the full address and how long the flushing takes? Thanks.
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Hi all
this is my 1st noob post ;D
am getting strictly 11.5km/l, 80% city, 20% hwy.
something interesting on yahoo (video) today:
"UPS saves money, 3 million gallons of fuel just by turning right"
http://www.yahoo.com/s/925067
in Sg, since we drive on the LEFT, wonder if we can do the same and save on ga$ by turning LEFT ?
ie. plan (re-plan) our travel routes to minimize right turns that cut across traffic, which has higher probability of stopping to give way to oncoming traffic as compared to left turns.
very interesting.. it makes a lot of sense .. but it's not about turning LEFT.. if u turn LEFT into a jam infront of you, your FC also chui. the point is to avoid as many start/stop as possible :thumbsup:
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Hi Bro, Can share what is the full address and how long the flushing takes? Thanks.
46 Bendemeer Road,Singapore 339931 ,Tel: (65) 6293 3636
whole process shd be less than 1 hr. Intend to try this service later
cheers
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46 Bendemeer Road,Singapore 339931 ,Tel: (65) 6293 3636
whole process shd be less than 1 hr. Intend to try this service later
cheers
please share with us your experience and FR after try the service, thanks
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46 Bendemeer Road,Singapore 339931 ,Tel: (65) 6293 3636
whole process shd be less than 1 hr. Intend to try this service later
cheers
Thanks, Bro.
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46 Bendemeer Road,Singapore 339931 ,Tel: (65) 6293 3636
whole process shd be less than 1 hr. Intend to try this service later
cheers
Bro u tried already?
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WHat happens when u tell nissan service center u want to use your own oil.
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They will give you a discount to offset the oil that you brought yourself.
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My FC range from 12 to 12.7 for months.
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Yo Bro....i believe alot of lations share the same setiments as yours with lots of qns on the FC....like mine also has drop but mainly due to my route of travelling and % of highways vs cities area..so really gotta gauge the rational behind lor... Anyway, few factors that may cater to the reasons behind although some may / may not agree lah :thumbsup:
Air Con adjustment (How cold / hot you adjusted)
Tyres (Air inflation did you check freq)
Traffic Congestion (Traffics also need to consider the idling time, stopping period)
Foot how heavy (Heavier you are, more it will lim your petrol)
Speed constant (Maintain proper speed all the way to avoid unnec wastage of petrol)
Way of driving - Sudden brake / pickup, etc..(rem any sudden movement sure pump our ride heart heavy big time)
Route Area (City vs highway %)
Any more to add on Lations???? :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
Hi,
I was advised and did the following
1. Air Con adjustment - 25 - 25 degrees
2. Air con pipe - wrap with black colour air con tubing
For tyre air pressure, I will pump around once a week. Am trying 250 Kpa (front) and 230 Kpa (back). The recommended pressure by Nissan is based on cold air. After tyre travel for a distance, it will get warm. Thus, I pump more so that when the tyre cool down and the air contract, I will be getting like 235-240.
Mine mileage is average 12.5
Rgds
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Can you share with us what brand petrol you pump and how many RON petrol?
How many % highway/city driving?
How many rpm do you accelerate until?
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Can you share with us what brand petrol you pump and how many RON petrol?
How many % highway/city driving?
How many rpm do you accelerate until?
Hi
I pump Caltex RON 98.
50% city and 50% highway
I accelerate to approximately 3000.
Small road usually travel between 70-80 km/h
Highway usually between 80 - 110 km/h. 110 km/h is once or twice a week when I travel on TPE.
Rgds
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Have you tried 95RON before?
Does it gives less power and poorer mileage than 98RON?
If 98RON gives better mileage than 95RON, I don't mind switching.
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Have you tried 95RON before?
Does it gives less power and poorer mileage than 98RON?
If 98RON gives better mileage than 95RON, I don't mind switching.
Hi
Has been using Caltex 95 until Jul. If I compare power and smoothness, Caltex 98 wins.
For mileage, I have yet to notice the difference.
Actually hor, I switch to 98 because I have 16% discount. If not, I will just stick to 95 lah.
What petrol you pump ah?
Rgds
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Hi
I pump Caltex RON 98.
50% city and 50% highway
I accelerate to approximately 3000.
Small road usually travel between 70-80 km/h
Highway usually between 80 - 110 km/h. 110 km/h is once or twice a week when I travel on TPE.
Rgds
hi alangohek
What's ur FC?
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hi alangohek
What's ur FC?
Hi iagree
12.5. Still on mineral oil. Current Mileage: ~6500 km
Rgds
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If u run 30-40km straight, u get FC14-15, if U travel 10+20km straight, FC is between 11-13
I try Esso 5000, shell 95, Caltex silver and SPC 95
My review from worse to better
SPC
shell
Caltex
Esso
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If u run 30-40km straight, u get FC14-15, if U travel 10+20km straight, FC is between 11-13
I try Esso 5000, shell 95, Caltex silver and SPC 95
My review from worse to better
SPC
shell
Caltex
Esso
Your review purely based on mileage ? What about smoothness and response ? :smile:
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Hi iagree
12.5. Still on mineral oil. Current Mileage: ~6500 km
Rgds
hi alangoh
ic. still early.
during that kind of mileage, mine was abt 13km/L.
now i drive much faster, so, FC maintain abt 12.5km/L.
quite gd liao
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Hi
Has been using Caltex 95 until Jul. If I compare power and smoothness, Caltex 98 wins.
For mileage, I have yet to notice the difference.
Actually hor, I switch to 98 because I have 16% discount. If not, I will just stick to 95 lah.
What petrol you pump ah?
Rgds
I am currently using Esso 95 RON. I get between 10 to 12km/l.
Have not tried any other brands as I read from feedback here that Esso gives the best mileage.
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Hi iagree
12.5. Still on mineral oil. Current Mileage: ~6500 km
Rgds
mine is almost the same as urs
12.5km/l. Still on mineral oil. Current Mileage: ~3900km
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mine is almost the same as urs
12.5km/l. Still on mineral oil. Current Mileage: ~3900km
hi limck007
i thk your 12.5km/l is abt d same as my 13km/l since Oct07 , coz that time the fuel price was cheaper.
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hi limck007
i thk your 12.5km/l is abt d same as my 13km/l since Oct07 , coz that time the fuel price was cheaper.
oh... petrol price also affect the quality of petrol meh??
for me >>? i think is wait and see ba.. too early to say as i havent even drive pass 5000km
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oh... petrol price also affect the quality of petrol meh??
for me >>? i think is wait and see ba.. too early to say as i havent even drive pass 5000km
Haven season :bleh:
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limck,
Your mileage should improve significantly after your engine has run in.
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oh... petrol price also affect the quality of petrol meh??
for me >>? i think is wait and see ba.. too early to say as i havent even drive pass 5000km
hi limck
not quality of petrol.
we pay more mah but we get less petrol mah.
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mine averaging about 14.3 for past 9 tanks... current mileage 4800km
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14.3km/l during running in period? :w00t:
Your Latio is 1 in a million. :thumbsup:
Care to share with us -
How many % highway/city driving?
How many rpm do you rev until?
What brand and RON petrol do you pump?
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14.3km/l during running in period? :w00t:
Your Latio is 1 in a million. :thumbsup:
Care to share with us -
How many % highway/city driving?
How many rpm do you rev until?
What brand and RON petrol do you pump?
i very surprised also with the good economy... best ever was 16km/litre, last tank was 15km/litre.
80% highway/20% city
rpm1.8-1.9k mostly on expressway... gentle pickup not more than 2k.
caltex 95ron
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No wonder you get such excellent mileage ;D
Try pumping your tyre pressure to 240Kpa and remove your spare tyre and you will get even better mileage.
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i very surprised also with the good economy... best ever was 16km/litre, last tank was 15km/litre.
80% highway/20% city
rpm1.8-1.9k mostly on expressway... gentle pickup not more than 2k.
caltex 95ron
Wow! Great for u! :thumbsup:
My 1st tank i only got 10.5km/litre. But then my driving is 10% highway/90% city... :(
i hoping things will change for the better after run-in.
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i very surprised also with the good economy... best ever was 16km/litre, last tank was 15km/litre.
80% highway/20% city
rpm1.8-1.9k mostly on expressway... gentle pickup not more than 2k.
caltex 95ron
hello fickle
haha, that is what i do when my mileage was below 1000 :)
i get 13km/L :)
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hi limck
not quality of petrol.
we pay more mah but we get less petrol mah.
How can this be ? You filling the same amount of fuel except paying for higher premiums for the petrol, so how can it be lesser ? :blink:
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No wonder you get such excellent mileage ;D
Try pumping your tyre pressure to 240Kpa and remove your spare tyre and you will get even better mileage.
oh, i already pump to 240-245 kpa liao :) spare tyre i would not touch... the mileage is good enough for me already.
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hello fickle
haha, that is what i do when my mileage was below 1000 :)
i get 13km/L :)
i am not rushing to get anywhere in particular... hence the relaxed driving style :smile:
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wah rao...
i envy ur FCs man..
i'm only getting 11-12km/l average..
80% city / 20% highway
both me n wife r light-footed drivers..
currently on X-Rev 5W30..
mileage is abt 23000km..
on 16" rims..
:crycry: :crycry: :crycry:
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this type of thing how to compare. Different routes, different mods, different traffic condition, different load (a guy weighing 60kg will of cos have better fc than a guy weighing 90kg rite) so very hard to judge one lah..
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wow i cant believe this thread is still running
My car cant run but definitely can be 1 of the more economical bunch here and had even surpassed 2 of my colleague's Jazz
Profile: 4AT stock wif 205/55/16 on amsoil 0w-30 daily PIE and weekend full city driving
FC : 15.5km/l to 16.5km/l
1.Say No to 2500rpm...
2.Cruise at 85km/h
3.Minimize city roads or traffic lights
4.Minimize short trips
5.Minimize travelling in the day
6.Minimize usuage of air con
7.Reduce air con to 27
8.Drive windows down
9.Remove additional weight
10.Use Esso avoid Vpower
11.Get wheel properly balanced
12.Minimize or avoid performance mods
13.Avoid ICE
14.Avoid adding sports pedals to ur pedals
15.Rid spare tyres
16.Avoid adding unnecessary or lousy designed body kits
17.Adding 5% more pressure to tyre
18.Travel on lane 2
19.Pump petrol only at night
20.Pump petrol slowly
21.Avoid using bigger than 16inch rims
22.Avoid using tyre profile > 195
23.Avoid parking at multi storey carpark
24.Off engine when waiting people more than 5mins
25.Slowly cruise when reaching red light
26.Look further
27.Avoid travelling behind sports car
28.Avoid not using the car for more than 2 days
29.Reduce rate of braking
30.Avoid roads with humps
31.Avoid using GPS or mobile phone when driving
32.Avoid wearing boots or thick sole shoes when driving
33.Avoid peak hours travelling
34.Avoid listening to rock or heavy metal music or dance music when driving
35.Avoid going Tan Chong for servicing(dont sue me pls)
36.Use uber good engine oil(e.g Amsoil 0w-30)
37.Do regular servicing
38.Do servicing in weekdays
39.Lose some weight
40.Use stock air filter
41.Avoid unsure mods
If u are browsing this thread , petrol consumption must be an issue to u so i hope it helps. If else , just enjoy the ride (y be so restricting)... doing all above will just give u another cup of ice mocha every week.
Below is samples fuel gauge for ur reference
Pumped petrol to full by filling to brim, travelled 80km,needle drop a bit..
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv288%2FNovellus%2FDSC02027.jpg&hash=18f00ce9f77329d686091e9fcdb148fb8c2bd66f)
reaching 1st quarter mark ...160km
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv288%2FNovellus%2FDSC02043.jpg&hash=fea9b2d29729f68865036a5fa660067baa719283)
completed 1st quarter mark ...ard 200km..(litres consumed should b ard 12litres)
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv288%2FNovellus%2FDSC02045.jpg&hash=687e8ade34077b1569e409d7cf35de8aa593ea82)
halfway to 260
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv288%2FNovellus%2FDSC02048.jpg&hash=b4eba133d62174715ba6ac952dbf392fe2f9f172)
hit 53% mark ...mileage reach 353
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Pumped petrol at 431 with 25.32 squeezed in, FC - 17km/l
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wow :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
power leh!!!!
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wow i cant believe this thread is still running
My car cant run but definitely can be 1 of the more economical bunch here and had even surpassed 2 of my colleague's Jazz
Profile: 4AT stock wif 205/55/16 on amsoil 0w-30 daily PIE and weekend full city driving
FC : 15.5km/l to 16.5km/l
1.Say No to 2500rpm...
2.Cruise at 85km/h
3.Minimize city roads or traffic lights
4.Minimize short trips
5.Minimize travelling in the day
6.Minimize usuage of air con
7.Reduce air con to 27
8.Drive windows down
9.Remove additional weight
10.Use Esso avoid Vpower
11.Get wheel properly balanced
12.Minimize or avoid performance mods
13.Avoid ICE
14.Avoid adding sports pedals to ur pedals
15.Rid spare tyres
16.Avoid adding unnecessary or lousy designed body kits
17.Adding 5% more pressure to tyre
18.Travel on lane 2
19.Pump petrol only at night
20.Pump petrol slowly
21.Avoid using bigger than 16inch rims
22.Avoid using tyre profile > 195
23.Avoid parking at multi storey carpark
24.Off engine when waiting people more than 5mins
25.Slowly cruise when reaching red light
26.Look further
27.Avoid travelling behind sports car
28.Avoid not using the car for more than 2 days
29.Reduce rate of braking
30.Avoid roads with humps
31.Avoid using GPS or mobile phone when driving
32.Avoid wearing boots or thick sole shoes when driving
33.Avoid peak hours travelling
34.Avoid listening to rock or heavy metal music or dance music when driving
35.Avoid going Tan Chong for servicing(dont sue me pls)
36.Use uber good engine oil(e.g Amsoil 0w-30)
37.Do regular servicing
38.Do servicing in weekdays
39.Lose some weight
40.Use stock air filter
41.Avoid unsure mods
If u are browsing this thread , petrol consumption must be an issue to u so i hope it helps. If else , just enjoy the ride (y be so restricting)... doing all above will just give u another cup of ice mocha every week.
Below is samples fuel gauge for ur reference
Pumped petrol to full by filling to brim.
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reaching 1st quarter mark ...160km
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completed 1st quarter mark ...ard 200km..(litres consumed should b ard 12litres)
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halfway to 260
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hit 53% mark ...mileage reach 353
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Pumped petrol at 431 with 25.32 squeezed in, FC - 17km/l
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Fantastic !! :D
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Your Latio fuel consumption is amazing low. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Your Latio already travelled 89km and your fuel gauge needle is still at FULL?
How much more petrol did you pump after the fuel noozle gets cut off.
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Your Latio fuel consumption is amazing low. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Your Latio already travelled 89km and your fuel gauge needle is still at FULL?
How much more petrol did you pump after the fuel noozle gets cut off.
hi clar
aiyo, that one is not accurate one lah.
if u take 10 times how much u pump and then divide accordingly, that may be give u more accurate FC loh.
and, if we dun speed, soon soon drive, shld get btr FC aso.
who know that last 1/4 can last for 30km oni? haha
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aiyo
(iagree) with that.
so torturing to drive a car, then what for driving it leh, if want to save till so extreme :(
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super ultimate checklist :thumbsup: but cannot lah if i drive like that i will cry. maciam fly aeroplane.
hmm say no to 2500 rpm.. r u using 4AT or CVT? i think 2200-2500rpm is quite easy to "kena" esp in city driving. hwy driving maybe not, cos of gradual acceleration.
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aiyo
(iagree) with that.
so torturing to drive a car, then what for driving it leh, if want to save till so extreme :(
i agree... Drive in a manner that u feel song/shiok one.. then if u get GOOD FC then its a bonus..
If u get lousy FC but still within your wallet's power.. then still okie lah haha
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eh? Its already at 80+ when u pump full or u trying to say when u travel 80 the needle is stll at F mark?
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OK a bit misleading on the comment on that picture..
of coz , No doubt of coz i reset my meter to 0 after pumped to brim...
u can judge urself the needle at 80km..it actually dipped a bit. At 0, the needle is way on top...
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When you mentioned that you pumped to the brim, was it to the extend that the petrol almost flowed out?
Or did you stop the momment the fuel noozle auto cut off?
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wow i cant believe this thread is still running
My car cant run but definitely can be 1 of the more economical bunch here and had even surpassed 2 of my colleague's Jazz
Profile: 4AT stock wif 205/55/16 on amsoil 0w-30 daily PIE and weekend full city driving
FC : 15.5km/l to 16.5km/l
1.Say No to 2500rpm...
2.Cruise at 85km/h
3.Minimize city roads or traffic lights
4.Minimize short trips
5.Minimize travelling in the day
6.Minimize usuage of air con
7.Reduce air con to 27
8.Drive windows down
9.Remove additional weight
10.Use Esso avoid Vpower
11.Get wheel properly balanced
12.Minimize or avoid performance mods
13.Avoid ICE
14.Avoid adding sports pedals to ur pedals
15.Rid spare tyres
16.Avoid adding unnecessary or lousy designed body kits
17.Adding 5% more pressure to tyre
18.Travel on lane 2
19.Pump petrol only at night
20.Pump petrol slowly
21.Avoid using bigger than 16inch rims
22.Avoid using tyre profile > 195
23.Avoid parking at multi storey carpark
24.Off engine when waiting people more than 5mins
25.Slowly cruise when reaching red light
26.Look further
27.Avoid travelling behind sports car
28.Avoid not using the car for more than 2 days
29.Reduce rate of braking
30.Avoid roads with humps
31.Avoid using GPS or mobile phone when driving
32.Avoid wearing boots or thick sole shoes when driving
33.Avoid peak hours travelling
34.Avoid listening to rock or heavy metal music or dance music when driving
35.Avoid going Tan Chong for servicing(dont sue me pls)
36.Use uber good engine oil(e.g Amsoil 0w-30)
37.Do regular servicing
38.Do servicing in weekdays
39.Lose some weight
40.Use stock air filter
41.Avoid unsure mods
If u are browsing this thread , petrol consumption must be an issue to u so i hope it helps. If else , just enjoy the ride (y be so restricting)... doing all above will just give u another cup of ice mocha every week.
Below is samples fuel gauge for ur reference
Pumped petrol to full by filling to brim, travelled 80km,needle drop a bit..
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reaching 1st quarter mark ...160km
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completed 1st quarter mark ...ard 200km..(litres consumed should b ard 12litres)
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halfway to 260
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hit 53% mark ...mileage reach 353
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Pumped petrol at 431 with 25.32 squeezed in, FC - 17km/l
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Like dat the SHELL Economy Challege you surely will win others flat flat, man.
Go for it.
Prize is free petrol.......................
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This is only 18km/l. ;)
How to win in the Shell Challenge in Category B for cars between 1000cc to 2000cc when we already had a 2000cc Hyundai Sonata achieving something like 30km/h in the last challenge last year. :confused1:
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i'm still getting pretty sad FC.. around 10+ :( dunno why. half half city hway. mileage 4500km. when do u all see FC improvements? after 10,000?
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When you mentioned that you pumped to the brim, was it to the extend that the petrol almost flowed out?
Or did you stop the momment the fuel noozle auto cut off?
it dosent matter. i understand by squeezing to brim..u get more mileage...but ur FC can also be jeopardize if throughout the tank , something bad affect ur FC
but even if u take the average of my 2 tank records(just pumped , clicked and remove nozzle style) it is still possible to achieve 16k/l
Just note that to take a more accurate FC if u haave been filling to brim , then keep doing so...
coz some day u feel to brim , someday u clicked and remove..u will juz cr8 false data
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i'm still getting pretty sad FC.. around 10+ :( dunno why. half half city hway. mileage 4500km. when do u all see FC improvements? after 10,000?
some ppl lucky can get a very good FC car even when they lup petrol
FC improvement is dependent on cars..think mines had 2 milestones...12k and 20k
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i'm still getting pretty sad FC.. around 10+ :( dunno why. half half city hway. mileage 4500km. when do u all see FC improvements? after 10,000?
mine just kept on going down a gentle downhill
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for me.. my half tank only can hit 220km only lejh...
way way difference from 353km
Y Y Y ????? :crycry: :crycry:
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for me.. my half tank only can hit 220km only lejh...
way way difference from 353km
Y Y Y ????? :crycry: :crycry:
Right now my tank is half, around 280+ onli, also far from 353 lol..
Anyway my previous tank got me a new record: 15.1km/l :yehyeh:
Nt much change in driving method, one of the major reason i believed is:
Usually i pump SPC 98, den last week finally get to pump shell although the tank left around 55% den the great thing comes..
My FC from 14.2km/l (around) increases to 15.1km/kl, which is a major improvement~
Well, will try to see if this tank is as good :thumbsup:
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Last week, my trip to KL, avg FC was abt 11.7 to 12km/L.
Hehe. Because my foot didn't listen to me, when i speed in the NSHW, the RPM will hit 3000 to 4000. At times, it hit 5000rpm.
How how how? :)
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for me.. my half tank only can hit 220km only lejh...
way way difference from 353km
Y Y Y ????? :crycry: :crycry:
Hi,
I believe you top up when you see the yellow fuel light and stop when you hear the pop sound right?
So what is FC like?
Rgds
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mine also ard there.. 220-240km at half mark. until yellow light maybe 450km. like this is about 38l, so fc is ~12km/l only.
yes i usually top up at yellow light and fill until the pump clicks off. but this should not matter. average out over many many tanks i still see <12km/l. sigh.
recently jam jam jam on expressway, so really i think u can consider it 20% hwy, 80% city. like ******** like that!
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Guys,
Pls relax. It is nothing that we can avoid! Just bear with it.
Or, just try to drive with 2000 rpm or below. But if for short trip like 10 to 12km per round, your FC can't save much too.
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Same here have been getting btw 11.5 to 12km/l. Will request to reset the ecu during my next servicing.
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But I always get motorists behind me horning or flashing their headlights at me when I accelerate at max 2000rpm. :mad:
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Hi,
I believe you top up when you see the yellow fuel light and stop when you hear the pop sound right?
So what is FC like?
Rgds
same as detact8
mine also ard there.. 220-240km at half mark. until yellow light maybe 450km. like this is about 38l, so fc is ~12km/l only.
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Same here have been getting btw 11.5 to 12km/l. Will request to reset the ecu during my next servicing.
is there a Optimal setting for ECU??
like play game>> click "Optimal setting" then ECU will be set to BEST setting for the car...
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Same here have been getting btw 11.5 to 12km/l. Will request to reset the ecu during my next servicing.
me oridi numb liao. initially keep thinking y others can achieve such good fc but not me? wat i c the difference is i iwll keep the aircon on when i m in the car. cant bear the wind noise spoiling my music if wind down window.
actually i oridi get tcm to reset my ecu 2 times liao. but no help at all. so now just hoping and praying that MY Green Oil will have effect and improve my fc.
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Did last servicing at autosaver , they tuned my car back to optimal settings i think..from there FC has been hitting 16k/l with ease.
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Did last servicing at autosaver , they tuned my car back to optimal settings i think..from there FC has been hitting 16k/l with ease.
Do you know what they tune? Curious. :smile:
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Do you know what they tune? Curious. :smile:
i didnt bother to see , only knew from the final report list. maybe some bros here who did there could comment. i only knew service tru em definitely has reduce my possiblities of going back to TC.
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Usually i pump SPC 98, den last week finally get to pump shell although the tank left around 55% den the great thing comes..
My FC from 14.2km/l (around) increases to 15.1km/kl, which is a major improvement~
Well, will try to see if this tank is as good :thumbsup:
Heard from friends and I also experienced it myself that if mix same grade petrol from different brand/company, the FC is better. It is noticeable with much better fc. But some ppl say in the long run, bad for car (- something that I don't understand why as some ppl just pump at any kioks nearby when their fuel runs low and they do not have problem with their car.).
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Heard from friends and I also experienced it myself that if mix same grade petrol from different brand/company, the FC is better. It is noticeable with much better fc. But some ppl say in the long run, bad for car (- something that I don't understand why as some ppl just pump at any kioks nearby when their fuel runs low and they do not have problem with their car.).
HMmmmm this time round I nv mix petrol leh.. my last tank was all shell, as well as this tank.
Latest FC is 15.18km/l, further improved by 0.08 lol. Hopefully the third tank also falls within 15km/l den ho seh liao. See my this tank how and will update here :thumbsup:
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HMmmmm this time round I nv mix petrol leh.. my last tank was all shell, as well as this tank.
Latest FC is 15.18km/l, further improved by 0.08 lol. Hopefully the third tank also falls within 15km/l den ho seh liao. See my this tank how and will update here :thumbsup:
Any improvement after installing SB? :smile:
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Any improvement after installing SB? :smile:
In terms of FC i don think so.. Gear changing improved and a lil improvement on torque.
Aiya $10 wan gain wat lol, good enuff liao lo :yehyeh:
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Yesterday, i pumped at Esso/Mobil @ JB (when i reached jb), the FC was abt 14km/L leh. Sui !
My ride will be going for the next 10k servicing again.... 28200 will send for next servicing... 5th service!!! Have not decide on which service ctr to go yet! 1) Msia TCM 2) SG TCM... see which package is offering cheaper price.
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Yesterday, i pumped at Esso/Mobil @ JB (when i reached jb), the FC was abt 14km/L leh. Sui !
My ride will be going for the next 10k servicing again.... 28200 will send for next servicing... 5th service!!! Have not decide on which service ctr to go yet! 1) Msia TCM 2) SG TCM... see which package is offering cheaper price.
iagree, let us know which country offer the best deal ya. BTW, if you service at Msia TCM, will not affect your warranty with SG TCM? And whether their servicing package is the same (spare part change, etc)?
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iagree, let us know which country offer the best deal ya. BTW, if you service at Msia TCM, will not affect your warranty with SG TCM? And whether their servicing package is the same (spare part change, etc)?
hi arias48
i thk won't void wrty kua?
save $ first... think later.
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Hi Bros,
Just got my car last week. Just to check, hw u determine the FC? Cos you can't possibly wait for fuel tank to empty then u pump full tank right. Pls advise me. Thanks alot.
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er that is actually what i do. i track every tank, so after 2 - 3 tank (~1000+km) you can tell your FC already.
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Hi Bros,
Just got my car last week. Just to check, hw u determine the FC? Cos you can't possibly wait for fuel tank to empty then u pump full tank right. Pls advise me. Thanks alot.
1. Pump to full tank
2. Reset your trip meter
3. When you next pump to full, take kilometers travelled divided by total litres of petrol pumped = xx km/l
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Hi everyone....am new to this website and forum....just got my sedan latio about 1 mth ago..went for 1k servicing already...FC only achieved 12.5...does the FC for this car continue to improves?
One more question, I dun understand why the seat has to be so high up even when i shift them to the lowest....it is not particularly comfortable for driver...need some getting used to....but the keyless feature is great.....
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sighs.. my fc is like .. low 12. something.. or high 11. something..
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Are you a heavy footer driver?? My first tank (before 1k servicing) was 11km+...then i change my driving style....try not to rev the car to beyond 2500rpm....then the FC improves to 12.5....but it has been 12.5 since my 2nd tank....wonder if it will improve further when i hit 5k mileage....
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12+ is pretty good in my opinion. I'm also getting around that for my 1 yr plus ride :)
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Are you a heavy footer driver?? My first tank (before 1k servicing) was 11km+...then i change my driving style....try not to rev the car to beyond 2500rpm....then the FC improves to 12.5....but it has been 12.5 since my 2nd tank....wonder if it will improve further when i hit 5k mileage....
hmm, i could be considered heavy footer ba. i guess. drive abit faster on expressway den last time, so maybe they would have affected
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hmm for the past 3 months.. my FC is either 11 or 12km/l niah ...
using caltex silver + Power-Z
Currently on my 2nd bottle of Power-z.. .. After 1st bottle=> not much changes.... but still monitoring ... will update everyone as i progress on with my 6 bottles of Power-Z
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hmm for the past 3 months.. my FC is either 11 or 12km/l niah ...
using caltex silver + Power-Z
Currently on my 2nd bottle of Power-z.. .. After 1st bottle=> not much changes.... but still monitoring ... will update everyone as i progress on with my 6 bottles of Power-Z
for me i'm using caltex worth of 95 which i believe also silver. without addictive.. I think maybe driver too heavy tats why fc no good as well. Lol
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for me i'm using caltex worth of 95 which i believe also silver. without addictive.. I think maybe driver too heavy tats why fc no good as well. Lol
hi idiotboi89
ohhh, i am using ron95 aso, the cheapest one.
my FC is in this range of 11.5km/l to 14km/l.
i thk just relax, no problem with the FC, it varies for every tank that we pump.
regards.
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Hi everyone....am new to this website and forum....just got my sedan latio about 1 mth ago..went for 1k servicing already...FC only achieved 12.5...does the FC for this car continue to improves?
One more question, I dun understand why the seat has to be so high up even when i shift them to the lowest....it is not particularly comfortable for driver...need some getting used to....but the keyless feature is great.....
Dun worry about FC, just enjoy your ride. ;)
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hmm, i could be considered heavy footer ba. i guess. drive abit faster on expressway den last time, so maybe they would have affected
Driving fast on expressway != heavy footer......what i mean is how hard you slam onto the gas padel when moving off from stationary and when overtaking at short distance....if you often overtake at short distance, you probably will slam hard on the gas....
During my first week with the car, I slam hard on the gas very often and push the rpm above 3000....now i try to accelerate at abt 2500rpm....at highway, i can achieve from 80kph to 110kph by keeping the rpm to slight above 2000rpm....
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Dun worry about FC, just enjoy your ride. ;)
How can i not worry abt FC with the raising oil price....also...i was kind of force to buy a car...i am one of those damn household where hubby 1 car and i 1 car....i had to use money to buy myself more time after work...sad life in sg....
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hi idiotboi89
ohhh, i am using ron95 aso, the cheapest one.
my FC is in this range of 11.5km/l to 14km/l.
i thk just relax, no problem with the FC, it varies for every tank that we pump.
regards.
There is an even cheaper grade of petrol than 95RON.
That's 92RON.
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There is an even cheaper grade of petrol than 95RON.
That's 92RON.
I have been using Caltax sliver since I bought my 1st car in 2005.....dun see much difference when i pump different brand of petrol...besides, i got discount card from my company of 14%with caltax..
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Cheer up! My FC is between 10.5-11.5. :scared:
Sometimes cannot think too much, lah... Life here is stressful enough as it is. Just enjoy yr ride! :thumbsup:
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Zippy,
When you Latio has run in, petrol consumption will be less and you will get better mileage.
Was it you who mentioned that you bought Carlube synthetic oil for your 1000km oil change?
Maybe your poor mileage could be due to thw synthetic oil?
Mineral oil is recommended for first 10,000km run-in period.
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Zippy,
When you Latio has run in, petrol consumption will be less and you will get better mileage.
Was it you who mentioned that you bought Carlube synthetic oil for your 1000km oil change?
Maybe your poor mileage could be due to thw synthetic oil?
Mineral oil is recommended for first 10,000km run-in period.
Is it? Where was the recommendation printed? No one told me before lei....thanks for the info...
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How can i not worry abt FC with the raising oil price....also...i was kind of force to buy a car...i am one of those damn household where hubby 1 car and i 1 car....i had to use money to buy myself more time after work...sad life in sg....
Rising fuel price? It been going down for the pass weeks !! No one is forced to commit to buying car, you may have your reason but we are not obligated to know. Anyway, as I have mentioned, Latio is already a good FC car, so just enjoy and control your right foot or usage since your family have 2 cars. ;)
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12.5 is good. i'm getting 12 or less. just done my 5000km servicing. we'll see when it reaches 10,000...
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Does anyone know wat is the manufacter FC? I think it is 14km...can anyone help to verify this??
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There is an even cheaper grade of petrol than 95RON.
That's 92RON.
hi clarence
sorry. iagree w u.
then mine is ron92, coz when i go Caltex sg, i always tell him, pump the cheapest one.
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Zippy,
When you Latio has run in, petrol consumption will be less and you will get better mileage.
Was it you who mentioned that you bought Carlube synthetic oil for your 1000km oil change?
Maybe your poor mileage could be due to thw synthetic oil?
Mineral oil is recommended for first 10,000km run-in period.
Hi clarence
Actually, "run in" meaning to speed and run fast fast right? I forgot.
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hi clarence
sorry. iagree w u.
then mine is ron92, coz when i go Caltex sg, i always tell him, pump the cheapest one.
iagree, I tried pumping ron92, after the 3rd tank, my car like no power, so I switch back to ron95 but from ron95 to ron98 I tried, no diff.
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hi clarence
sorry. iagree w u.
then mine is ron92, coz when i go Caltex sg, i always tell him, pump the cheapest one.
Hello Bro,
Caltex do not has ron92 leh. Pengz. :glare:
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I think it boils down to ur driving style and if u travel on highway most of the time or urban drive....
:yehyeh:
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Hi clarence
Actually, "run in" meaning to speed and run fast fast right? I forgot.
Owner manual recommends not exceeding 4000rpm within the first 1000 miles or 1600km.
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Owner manual recommends not exceeding 4000rpm within the first 1000 miles or 1600km.
Hi clarence
Oh, that's good.
Below 1000, i still controlled by foot well! So no overlimit. Sui!!!
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Normally when your fuel indicator reaches 1/2, How much distance can you covered? 250KM?
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Normally when your fuel indicator reaches 1/2, How much distance can you covered? 250KM?
for mine is roughly 246km to 260km leh.... never above 270
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Normally when your fuel indicator reaches 1/2, How much distance can you covered? 250KM?
200 or 210.. if i am lucky 220.. :crying:
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200 or 210.. if i am lucky 220.. :crying:
:blink: 200 is very low le.. I still running in but managed to get only 240-260 during 1/2 tank.
You must be zoom zoom zoom a lot.. ;D
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:blink: 200 is very low le.. I still running in but managed to get only 240-260 during 1/2 tank.
You must be zoom zoom zoom a lot.. ;D
nope.. i'm very slow driver.. must be my weight ... t.t .. or my soft toy's weight... must weigh them liaoz
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Normally when your fuel indicator reaches 1/2, How much distance can you covered? 250KM?
i get about 300km at 1/2 mark
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i get about 300km at 1/2 mark
ARGHHHHHHHHH :mad:
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i get about 300km at 1/2 mark
300k at 1/2 tank? thats very good.. CVT?
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300k at 1/2 tank? thats very good.. CVT?
Latest number i got this morning when i pump.....13.7...current mileage 1900++....think not too bad....i m the zoom zoom zoom type...when i drive my M3....i zoom zoom hard on the road...when i m with latio...i tap tap tap lightly........
initially a bit regret buying it...dun like the look, dun like the driver seat....but now...ok lar....
:thumbsup:
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Latest number i got this morning when i pump.....13.7...current mileage 1900++....think not too bad....i m the zoom zoom zoom type...when i drive my M3....i zoom zoom hard on the road...when i m with latio...i tap tap tap lightly........
initially a bit regret buying it...dun like the look, dun like the driver seat....but now...ok lar....
:thumbsup:
Burnolise, just know that you owned M3 and Latio, so how you find both of the cars? Was considering getting M3 b4 that, by at the end settle with Latio due to spacious and good FC.
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Burnolise, just know that you owned M3 and Latio, so how you find both of the cars? Was considering getting M3 b4 that, by at the end settle with Latio due to spacious and good FC.
M3 is:
A car that tempts you at every corner and red light to zoom zoom zoom...
A hardy car that can take a lot of punishment from all kinds of road condition together with extreme heat and cold weather...I know this cos' i drove M3 for 3 years when I was attached oversea...
A car whose optimum FC is achieved only when you drive above 100kph...
A chio car that is good to cornering...
Quite value for $$$ at the price now compared to 3 yrs ago...
A safe car at high speed....tried driving it at 160kph and the car is still very stable....only starts to shake when i pushed it to 180kph...
M3 is not:
A city car...best FC achieved was 11km...
A family car...good for couples...
what else can i say?? I LOVE M3!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:devil2:
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M3 is:
A car that tempts you at every corner and red light to zoom zoom zoom...
A hardy car that can take a lot of punishment from all kinds of road condition together with extreme heat and cold weather...I know this cos' i drove M3 for 3 years when I was attached oversea...
A car whose optimum FC is achieved only when you drive above 100kph...
A chio car that is good to cornering...
Quite value for $$$ at the price now compared to 3 yrs ago...
A safe car at high speed....tried driving it at 160kph and the car is still very stable....only starts to shake when i pushed it to 180kph...
M3 is not:
A city car...best FC achieved was 11km...
A family car...good for couples...
what else can i say?? I LOVE M3!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:devil2:
Bro, i used to own M2 b4 i change to Latio in Apr this year. but my zoom zoom Fc is only 8+km/l compare to now 10+~11+ now. Btw what is ur nick in MCS? My nick is Zoomm2.
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Bro, i used to own M2 b4 i change to Latio in Apr this year. but my zoom zoom Fc is only 8+km/l compare to now 10+~11+ now. Btw what is ur nick in MCS? My nick is Zoomm2.
I dun know abt M2....tried the europe version of the new M2 and it drives and feels better....M2 asia (Sg) version, tried once in Sg...somehow dun feel as gd as the europe one....my M3 in europe can give me 12-12.5km if i go on weekend trips driving on countryside...but in my M3 in Sg can give me at most 11km....
I didn't join MCS...hehe....was too busy till now....my M3 is only 7mths old...before was driving a altis...
Lastly, I am not bro, I am auntie sis....
:thumbsup:
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I dun know abt M2....tried the europe version of the new M2 and it drives and feels better....M2 asia (Sg) version, tried once in Sg...somehow dun feel as gd as the europe one....my M3 in europe can give me 12-12.5km if i go on weekend trips driving on countryside...but in my M3 in Sg can give me at most 11km....
I didn't join MCS...hehe....was too busy till now....my M3 is only 7mths old...before was driving a altis...
Lastly, I am not bro, I am auntie sis....
:thumbsup:
So sorry sis.......thks anyway
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i get about 300km at 1/2 mark
Hate to see this type of figures, make me boil with envy. :D
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i get about 300km at 1/2 mark
can i check if u r using synthetic oil??
my 240-246km is achieved when i am now using mineral oil & total distance is 4392km
If urs is the same status as mine.. then my latio seriously got problem
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can i check if u r using synthetic oil??
my 240-246km is achieved when i am now using mineral oil & total distance is 4392km
If urs is the same status as mine.. then my latio seriously got problem
Den my latio is confirm condemmed lemon car liaoz..
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aiyo
u guys FC so kau sai meh?
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can i check if u r using synthetic oil??
my 240-246km is achieved when i am now using mineral oil & total distance is 4392km
If urs is the same status as mine.. then my latio seriously got problem
bro i am getting about the same mileage as u, mine is also a june-july car (5000+km so far)
pump until click, then drive until needle reaches "F", about 50-60km
drive until 3/4 mark, about 120km
drive until 1/2 mark, about 250km
i might drop by autobaks for ECU check and tuning when i hit 10000 and the mileage still like that.. i think thats about all we can do.
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Mine always 12 plus to 13 plus.
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bro i am getting about the same mileage as u, mine is also a june-july car (5000+km so far)
pump until click, then drive until needle reaches "F", about 50-60km
drive until 3/4 mark, about 120km
drive until 1/2 mark, about 250km
i might drop by autobaks for ECU check and tuning when i hit 10000 and the mileage still like that.. i think thats about all we can do.
wah lao.. u pump til click, can drive until needle hit F is 50 / 60... i squeeze until max den can do that.. damm envious of u guys..
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Sorry but the M3 you guys refering to is Madza3 or BMW M3?
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yapee!! i get mine 330km at 1/2 mark, using shell 98
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yapee!! i get mine 330km at 1/2 mark, using shell 98
kaoz... is this for new car??
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yapee!! i get mine 330km at 1/2 mark, using shell 98
bro...ur right foot...wats the pattern like...
ur RPM n speed most of the time?
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Sorry but the M3 you guys refering to is Madza3 or BMW M3?
Of cos MMMMAAAAADDDDAAAAA3!!!! My ONE and ONLY LOVE.....
:bleh:
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kaoz... is this for new car??
ya,mine is 1 and half month old
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bro...ur right foot...wats the pattern like...
ur RPM n speed most of the time?
my RPM not more than 2, speed around 80-90km/h
60%HW, 40%City
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my RPM not more than 2, speed around 80-90km/h
60%HW, 40%City
Hmm....mine also the same... pattern..leh. I monitor few more tanks
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let me finish my tank first. coz i just change to shell, use to use caltex b4 shell.
my friend tell me got to keep changing brand after 3 tank, see which 1 give u better FC.
for caltex i got 12-14. hope shell can give me more, coz this is my 2nd tank. later try other.
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300k at 1/2 tank? thats very good.. CVT?
Yup, CVT...
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can i check if u r using synthetic oil??
my 240-246km is achieved when i am now using mineral oil & total distance is 4392km
If urs is the same status as mine.. then my latio seriously got problem
still on mineral oil... mileage currently at 6220km. Changing to synthetic only at 10000km.
its probably my driving style, very light footed... and most times either 1 person or 2 persons in car.
boot minimal stuff (spare tyre intact though)
tyre pressure around 230-240 pumped every time i pump petrol.
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Hahaha.....finally i can hit 285km/l at half tank on my 4 mth old car using mineral oil. I am using Esso 5000 80% HW 20% city :yehyeh:
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Hahaha.....finally i can hit 285km/l at half tank on my 4 mth old car using mineral oil. I am using Esso 5000 80% HW 20% city :yehyeh:
I tink it really depends on how u drive...also..if u have body kit and treat ur car boot as an additional storage space...the FC will not be gd also....;D
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let me finish my tank first. coz i just change to shell, use to use caltex b4 shell.
my friend tell me got to keep changing brand after 3 tank, see which 1 give u better FC.
for caltex i got 12-14. hope shell can give me more, coz this is my 2nd tank. later try other.
hmm..is it advisible? tot better to stick to same brand? anyone can advise?
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You can mix SPC, Esso, Shell and Caltex together. It will not damage your engine.
I use only Esso as the other brands give poor mileage and poor points redemption.
Caltex and Shell : 1 litre ($1.90+) = 1 point
Esso : $1.25 = 1 point and 750 points can exchange for $30 voucher.
Caltex and Shell needs many more points to change for petrol voucher.
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me also just changed to Esso 5000 after 8 mths of Shell 95...not only the point redemption is more
attractive but I get additional 3% rebate on top of the 5% rebate given by Citibank dividend card.
FC wise is the same as using Shell 95..constantly getting 13km/l..
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Yes, you are right.
It is a 13% discount if you pay for your Esso petrol using Citibank Dividend credit card.
5% station discount and 8% Citibank rebate. Plus another 3% discount when you redeem 750 Esso Smiles points for $30 petrol voucher.
Best thing is that Esso gives a further the 5% station discount in the $30 petrol voucher that you claim.
So with a $30 petrol voucher, I can pump $31.50 of petrol at Esso! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Yes, you are right.
It is a 13% discount if you pay for your Esso petrol using Citibank Dividend credit card.
5% station discount and 8% Citibank rebate. Plus another 3% discount when you redeem 750 Esso Smiles points for $30 petrol voucher.
Best thing is that Esso gives a further the 5% station discount in the $30 petrol voucher that you claim.
So with a $30 petrol voucher, I can pump $31.50 of petrol at Esso! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Hm.m.m.m....does this means tat u get more than 13% discount for a normal pump? I have discount card tat can get me 14% at caltex for normal pump...
Hmmmm.....does this means tat you get total of 13% discount or more for a normal pump?
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Yes, you are right.
It is a 13% discount if you pay for your Esso petrol using Citibank Dividend credit card.
5% station discount and 8% Citibank rebate. Plus another 3% discount when you redeem 750 Esso Smiles points for $30 petrol voucher.
Best thing is that Esso gives a further the 5% station discount in the $30 petrol voucher that you claim.
So with a $30 petrol voucher, I can pump $31.50 of petrol at Esso! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
How does ur discount works? If u pump $50 and get station discount of 5%, then u pay $47.5. Then citibank gives u another 8% discount on $47.5 tat was charged to the card, so the final amt tat u pay is $43.7?
If it is 13% of $50, then u pay $43.5 right? So which discount u get?
:devil2:
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:yehyeh: i click 16. after trying caltex for about a month, i only get 12 - 14. changed to shell 98 recently and hit 16. i also have alot of barang barang in my boot plus a baby car seat at the back.
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:yehyeh: i click 16. after trying caltex for about a month, i only get 12 - 14. changed to shell 98 recently and hit 16. i also have alot of barang barang in my boot plus a baby car seat at the back.
wow.. thats good leh.. i been using caltex silver for 3mths liao.. FC only ranges from 10 to 12km/l
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How does ur discount works? If u pump $50 and get station discount of 5%, then u pay $47.5. Then citibank gives u another 8% discount on $47.5 tat was charged to the card, so the final amt tat u pay is $43.7?
If it is 13% of $50, then u pay $43.5 right? So which discount u get?
:devil2:
u pay $46.08 1st which is after 3% rebate from the statement...the 5% rebate of $2.38 will be refunded to u
when u hv accumulated $50 of rebates..thats mean u get $50 worth of petrol which cost u only $43.70.
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Hm.m.m.m....does this means tat u get more than 13% discount for a normal pump? I have discount card tat can get me 14% at caltex for normal pump...
i also hv 14% discount from caltex..but the area i stay doesnt hv any caltex station..i hv to travel out of my
area juz to enjoy another 1% discount on caltex which i find is not very worth.
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i also hv 14% discount from caltex..but the area i stay doesnt hv any caltex station..i hv to travel out of my
area juz to enjoy another 1% discount on caltex which i find is not very worth.
Oh....cos I stay kind of the north and I work in the east....so caltex is very convenient to me.....hehe...
:yehyeh:
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Think FC is really dependent on how u drive...my last tank gave me 13.3...but previous tank 13.7....my guess is the last tank was mostly driven by my hubby....and the previous tank by me....will try to be more light footed on the gas and see if this tank improves back...
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Haha, we seem to be going off topic from "My FC getting worse.......help!!" liao =)
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Think FC is really dependent on how u drive...my last tank gave me 13.3...but previous tank 13.7....my guess is the last tank was mostly driven by my hubby....and the previous tank by me....will try to be more light footed on the gas and see if this tank improves back...
Mileage is also dependent upon outdoor temperature.
The lower the temperature, the more economical.
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let me finish my tank first. coz i just change to shell, use to use caltex b4 shell.
my friend tell me got to keep changing brand after 3 tank, see which 1 give u better FC.
for caltex i got 12-14. hope shell can give me more, coz this is my 2nd tank. later try other.
i used esso/mobil initially... changed to caltex which gives me better mileage :)
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Caltex not worth.
Caltex
1 litre ($1.90+) = 1 point
1400 points = $40 petrol voucher
Esso
$1.25 = 1 point
750 points = $30 petrol voucher
You save an extra 3% $$$ with Esso.
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Caltex not worth.
Caltex
1 litre ($1.90+) = 1 point
1400 points = $40 petrol voucher
Esso
$1.25 = 1 point
750 points = $30 petrol voucher
You save an extra 3% $$$ with Esso.
i got 12% discount with esso(no rewards points)... 16% with caltex(with rewards points). so more sense for me to stick to caltex
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In summary, which card give which petrol with more $$$ discount?
Citibank Dividend credit card on Esso as quoted by clarence?
"It is a 13% discount if you pay for your Esso petrol using Citibank Dividend credit card.
5% station discount and 8% Citibank rebate. Plus another 3% discount when you redeem 750 Esso Smiles points for $30 petrol voucher."
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If you work in certain govt sector, like Temasek Holdings, you get to enjoy a corporate 16% discount card with Caltex.
For those unable to enjoy this benefit, Citibank Platinum Dividend Master Card is the next best alternative to allow to enjoy 13% discount at Esso, PLUS a further 3% rebate when you exchange 750 'Smiles' points for a $30 petrol voucher.
The 5% station discount is applicable for the $30 petrol voucher too.
3 Cheers to Esso!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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If you work in certain govt sector, like Temasek Holdings, you get to enjoy a corporate 16% discount card with Caltex.
For those unable to enjoy this benefit, Citibank Platinum Dividend Master Card is the next best alternative to allow to enjoy 13% discount at Esso, PLUS a further 3% rebate when you exchange 750 'Smiles' points for a $30 petrol voucher.
The 5% station discount is applicable for the $30 petrol voucher too.
3 Cheers to Esso!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Clarence, how do I get to enjoy Esso 'Smiles' points? Separate card is required?
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Yes, you can apply Smiles card for free to accumulate the points.
Instant collection.
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Bro u tried already?
hi bro mindman & humblecar, have both of u try up carbon removal? care to share lei if it's still as good? Thanks
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the esso station i went to at aljunied road gave me $3 vouchers (i think they gave me 20) which each $3 can be used for every $50 pump
this is only top of the 5% + smiles + 8% dividend rebate
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the esso station i went to at aljunied road gave me $3 vouchers (i think they gave me 20) which each $3 can be used for every $50 pump
this is only top of the 5% + smiles + 8% dividend rebate
wah soo good got the voucher! how to get it from them?
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the esso station i went to at aljunied road gave me $3 vouchers (i think they gave me 20) which each $3 can be used for every $50 pump
this is only top of the 5% + smiles + 8% dividend rebate
Esso usually have this promo for newly renovated stations.
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My FC hit 18km/L yday for a 150km journey from hometown to JB town.
Regards.
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My FC hit 18km/L yday for a 150km journey from hometown to JB town.
Regards.
Wat was your average speed and rpm?
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Wat was your average speed and rpm?
hi iagree, hv tried mine to rev at ~2 to 2.5k max in Malaysia high and maintained the speed average at 100 ~110km/h Max, it's really can help in FC, eg. try on 3/4 mark and to top up at JB, can reached ~ 150+km before reaching 1/2 mark. How abt yrs? Do share with us. Thanks.
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guys....light-footed as i might, roll far as i could, patience as i tried....i can only achieve 250km at 1/2 tank mark.......!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Tonight going to push my car ard the road to get 300km......:glare: :glare: :glare:
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Wat was your average speed and rpm?
Hi burnolise,
Around there.
My avg FC i think is abt 12km/L liao if drive in SG and jam at MY/Sg chkpt (for this Tank).
When I got my new ride 06Oct last year, I achieved 13.5km/L FC until few 1000km mileage.... Power.... How abt u?
Regards.
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hi iagree, hv tried mine to rev at ~2 to 2.5k max in Malaysia high and maintained the speed average at 100 ~110km/h Max, it's really can help in FC, eg. try on 3/4 mark and to top up at JB, can reached ~ 150+km before reaching 1/2 mark. How abt yrs? Do share with us. Thanks.
Hi LatioR,
Ohhhh....
Mine?
2000rpm to 4500rpm in Msia roads.
Recent Avg FC is abt 12km/L.
1/4 tank topup in JB, i can achieve 15 to 18km/L depending on the HSHW traffic condition. I do drive fast up to 150km/hour.
Regards.
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guys....light-footed as i might, roll far as i could, patience as i tried....i can only achieve 250km at 1/2 tank mark.......!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Tonight going to push my car ard the road to get 300km......:glare: :glare: :glare:
I encourage and support you to push all the way. :D
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I encourage and support you to push all the way. :D
Just pumped petrol yesterday......with a lot of rolling and patience wearing thin....managed to squeeze 14km/l....... :crying: :crying:
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Just pumped petrol yesterday......with a lot of rolling and patience wearing thin....managed to squeeze 14km/l....... :crying: :crying:
So 14km/l is your best? No need to worry, just drive as per normal and enjoy your ride like your previous vroom vroom. :smile:
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Guys, I can't help but come in and say something.
Hmm, I have been reading with much dismay about people getting diff Fc's and it's just normal!
Heh heh, like the best i've ever achieved was 13km/l and worse being 11km/l.
I've got ppl telling me they got 16km/l. But in conclusion, it's really the driver, and the road conditions.
I travel city driving and i get 11km/l, and someone else travels TPE PIE CTE SLE BKE KJE SLE AND WADEVER E , haha, won't that give him 13-14km/l?
Hmm, Latio is a comfy car.
Just enjoy the car, and no point squeezing that few km more for ur tank of petrol
By doing this way, you are a slave to the car.
In a sense where, * ohmygod i must get 13km/l if not, my latio is NOT good, compared to others*
Hmm, it's very subjective lor. Live to accept the FC you're getting. But if you start getting abnormalities and start getting 9 to 10, something is wrong. But if consistently you're doing that Xkm/l, just stick to it, and life will be pretty much better.
Hmm, no point frussig as to why person A gets 12 and Person B gets 14, and Person C gets 9... Haha. NO driver is the same.
cheers
my 2 bahts worth :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
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Guys, I can't help but come in and say something.
Hmm, I have been reading with much dismay about people getting diff Fc's and it's just normal!
Heh heh, like the best i've ever achieved was 13km/l and worse being 11km/l.
I've got ppl telling me they got 16km/l. But in conclusion, it's really the driver, and the road conditions.
I travel city driving and i get 11km/l, and someone else travels TPE PIE CTE SLE BKE KJE SLE AND WADEVER E , haha, won't that give him 13-14km/l?
Hmm, Latio is a comfy car.
Just enjoy the car, and no point squeezing that few km more for ur tank of petrol
By doing this way, you are a slave to the car.
In a sense where, * ohmygod i must get 13km/l if not, my latio is NOT good, compared to others*
Hmm, it's very subjective lor. Live to accept the FC you're getting. But if you start getting abnormalities and start getting 9 to 10, something is wrong. But if consistently you're doing that Xkm/l, just stick to it, and life will be pretty much better.
Hmm, no point frussig as to why person A gets 12 and Person B gets 14, and Person C gets 9... Haha. NO driver is the same.
cheers
my 2 bahts worth :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
actually, more like 2 bucks worth
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guys....light-footed as i might, roll far as i could, patience as i tried....i can only achieve 250km at 1/2 tank mark.......!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Tonight going to push my car ard the road to get 300km......:glare: :glare: :glare:
Bro, just enjoy the car (:
I used to only clock 200km for my half tank. n I'm happy with that.
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actually, more like 2 bucks worth
Hmm Silver, I'm sure you know where I'm coming from
I got this from my old man. haha.
One more thing to add guys!!
We bought Latio, or any car for that matter, to enjoy the convenience of not takig the BMW right? So, if by having a car, and then we need to control what we do to make our FC ideal, then i think BMW would be much easier cause we just sit there, and let the train and bus do the job, the bus driver's responsibility to make the FC of his bus be good, if not SBS TRANSIT scold him.
Wahh come to think bout it, SBS bus fc, i think 1km/l eh? HAHA! 9 freaking litres of displacement. :devil2:
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Hmm Silver, I'm sure you know where I'm coming from
I got this from my old man. haha.
One more thing to add guys!!
We bought Latio, or any car for that matter, to enjoy the convenience of not takig the BMW right? So, if by having a car, and then we need to control what we do to make our FC ideal, then i think BMW would be much easier cause we just sit there, and let the train and bus do the job, the bus driver's responsibility to make the FC of his bus be good, if not SBS TRANSIT scold him.
Wahh come to think bout it, SBS bus fc, i think 1km/l eh? HAHA! 9 freaking litres of displacement. :devil2:
I know where you are coming from and that's why I say more like 2 bucks worth .........
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I know where you are coming from and that's why I say more like 2 bucks worth .........
pls tell us where he is from... :devil2:
anyone, FC also depends on the weight.. if you carry more ppl or goods in boot.
do you think FC will improve if my wife and i lose 20kg each?? i think it will.. :devil2:
going to train running liao... :devil2:
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pls tell us where he is from... :devil2:
anyone, FC also depends on the weight.. if you carry more ppl or goods in boot.
do you think FC will improve if my wife and i lose 20kg each?? i think it will.. :devil2:
going to train running liao... :devil2:
heh heh
i'm from MARS
I am a MARTIAN! A MARLATION!
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heh heh
i'm from MARS
I am a MARTIAN! A MARLATION!
so tonight landing at meetup site by space ship, blinking lights and all?
ET phone home
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Guys, I can't help but come in and say something.
Hmm, I have been reading with much dismay about people getting diff Fc's and it's just normal!
Heh heh, like the best i've ever achieved was 13km/l and worse being 11km/l.
I've got ppl telling me they got 16km/l. But in conclusion, it's really the driver, and the road conditions.
I travel city driving and i get 11km/l, and someone else travels TPE PIE CTE SLE BKE KJE SLE AND WADEVER E , haha, won't that give him 13-14km/l?
Hmm, Latio is a comfy car.
Just enjoy the car, and no point squeezing that few km more for ur tank of petrol
By doing this way, you are a slave to the car.
In a sense where, * ohmygod i must get 13km/l if not, my latio is NOT good, compared to others*
Hmm, it's very subjective lor. Live to accept the FC you're getting. But if you start getting abnormalities and start getting 9 to 10, something is wrong. But if consistently you're doing that Xkm/l, just stick to it, and life will be pretty much better.
Hmm, no point frussig as to why person A gets 12 and Person B gets 14, and Person C gets 9... Haha. NO driver is the same.
cheers
my 2 bahts worth :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
hi bro..not fully agree with u lei..for me...just changed mine to latio (instead of altis) and the reason is latio is known for the good FC. My previous corrola 1.6M (age 16.5yrs old), the FC is ~ard 8 to 9km/l (suspect due to poor maintenance or car getting older...). Expect latio should give us 13km/l to meet the expectation...tough never deny that Latio is a Good Car in term of comfort :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Mine FC is ard 11 to 12+km/l which include jam at malaysia/Sg checkpoint (normally go to JB to top up petrol+dinning + shopping during weekends)
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hey guys
no the FC debate is not to haolian or what, but sometimes it's also something to feedback to us not only if the car has a potential issue, it may be a feedback for the drivers' driving behavior.
for a change, i joined in the F1 spirit and drove my latio like a track car with full passenger load today, and guess what? it burned petrol like nobody's business. half tank and it reads 190km. hopefully after some rough-in the ECU might adapt some things not noticed at lower RPM? i dunno. cos i hardly drive the car above 4000rpm. today whack until nearly 5000+.
anyway my driving style is i would call normal. i just accelerate till i feel comfortable, which is usually near 2500rpm for gear 1 and about 2200rpm onwards (4AT) then the usual hway crusing speed of 90-100kph. i work in tanjong pagar and stay bt batok, so i drive down AYE everyday to work and back with some occasional slow traffic and jam. then at night meet gf so go frm bt batok to bt panjang. weekend also the same, meet gf, go out with friend. i would say if included traffic condition i should be doing about 50/50. so far average is 12km/l.
it doesn't really seem normal when others are doing easily 14, 15, even 16! it might be the 2007YOM car that has some rusty parts? poor lubrication? rusty engine? deposits in the engine oil? choked fuel line? you know all these stuff may be the cause. seems like all the recent people who bought the latio 2007YOM ex-stock has a little lousier FC. there might be a link here?
so bros who report your FC here please share some details so we can make some light out of the difference we get... if anybody has the same travel pattern as me, even better! share share!
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hi.. but i think those that clock 14-16km/l are CVT model..
i think 4AT at most can hit 14 only... :nonod:
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hi.. but i think those that clock 14-16km/l are CVT model..
i think 4AT at most can hit 14 only... :nonod:
<---4AT , 15 and 16 no problem here...
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Mine still on mineral oil, average from pick up usually hit around 3000rpm, so FC hover around 11~12km/l. :smile:
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<---4AT , 15 and 16 no problem here...
you sure? how you do it? :confused1:
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you sure? how you do it? :confused1:
Maybe light footed. :smile:
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My FC hit 10.19km/L last night.
I thk due to tyres kena screwed.
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My FC hit 10.19km/L last night.
I thk due to tyres kena screwed.
How do you screwed your tyres ? :D
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How do you screwed your tyres ? :D
Hi Jazz,
Ya, use the big stick to screw it very hard :(
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Hi all
After changing my tyres go GR80 3 weeks ago.
My FC has dropped from 12-13km/L to 9.xx to 10km/L.
Kaulat leh.
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Hi all
After changing my tyres go GR80 3 weeks ago.
My FC has dropped from 12-13km/L to 9.xx to 10km/L.
Kaulat leh.
Itchy backside lor :bleh:
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I encourage and support you to push all the way. :D
U will get pple honking u all the way tooo ;D
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you sure? how you do it? :confused1:
i think he travel NS HW to work everyday ::)
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Itchy backside lor :bleh:
hi j
why u said that?
kena nail/screw at the side of the tyre, how leh? if you r me?
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How do you screwed your tyres ? :D
Hi Jazz
Well, to be frank to you...
I take a fresh new & long screw from the factory, and then use my internal energy (内功) to my right palm, and then just PUSH it to the tyre... That's how the tyre kena screwed.
Regards.
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hi j
why u said that?
kena nail/screw at the side of the tyre, how leh? if you r me?
sooo simple
change back original lor
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sigh my fc is seriously something wrong. tyre pressure ok, engine still new (8000km?), footing average, not much change in travel pattern, car is stock, spare tyre still at the back.. ... last 2 tanks 11km/l :nonod:
this tank also i think near 11km/l. what can be wrong man.
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sigh my fc is seriously something wrong. tyre pressure ok, engine still new (8000km?), footing average, not much change in travel pattern, car is stock, spare tyre still at the back.. ... last 2 tanks 11km/l :nonod:
this tank also i think near 11km/l. what can be wrong man.
wait for 10k km and change to synthetic see how ba. 2k more to go :smile:
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sigh my fc is seriously something wrong. tyre pressure ok, engine still new (8000km?), footing average, not much change in travel pattern, car is stock, spare tyre still at the back.. ... last 2 tanks 11km/l :nonod:
this tank also i think near 11km/l. what can be wrong man.
Hi detach8
Is normal i thk? :)
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har but u see ah... the FC has been dropping from 13km/l when i first collect, 12km/l after first svc, now after 2nd svc is 11km/l.. sekali after 10000km is 10km/l.... :nonod:
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har but u see ah... the FC has been dropping from 13km/l when i first collect, 12km/l after first svc, now after 2nd svc is 11km/l.. sekali after 10000km is 10km/l.... :nonod:
hi detach8,
relax.
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hi detach8,
relax.
My car mileage is 4k+...last tank actually gave me 14.5km/l....but i think really got to do with the pump attendenant got squeeze in a few litre more.....will monitor and see how is the next tank....
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har but u see ah... the FC has been dropping from 13km/l when i first collect, 12km/l after first svc, now after 2nd svc is 11km/l.. sekali after 10000km is 10km/l.... :nonod:
your own EO or the inhouse one ?????
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Hi Jazz
Well, to be frank to you...
I take a fresh new & long screw from the factory, and then use my internal energy (内功) to my right palm, and then just PUSH it to the tyre... That's how the tyre kena screwed.
Regards.
Hi iagree,
vent your fustration and screwed the tyre eh. :scared:
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Hi anyone there with Latio aged~3yrs but the FC still can hit >~14km/l? Like to compare mine (latio premium) at ~12km/l now (almost pump 100% SPC98). 60 HW 40 HDB area (not city drive)..
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sigh my fc is seriously something wrong. tyre pressure ok, engine still new (8000km?), footing average, not much change in travel pattern, car is stock, spare tyre still at the back.. ... last 2 tanks 11km/l :nonod:
this tank also i think near 11km/l. what can be wrong man.
bro, the road conditions play 50% of the cause, last time KPE not open yet, my FC 10-11. Now after KPE open my FC 13-14
travel and driving style not much change. just one day a week travel abt 120KM to Tuas and back.
Tyre pressure 250 front. 230 back
FYI initially when u change to Fully Syn oil, u notice yur engine super quiet, and a bit sluggish. thats normal. it takes abt 1K+ to run in just take it easy and not rev too much.
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sigh my fc is seriously something wrong. tyre pressure ok, engine still new (8000km?), footing average, not much change in travel pattern, car is stock, spare tyre still at the back.. ... last 2 tanks 11km/l :nonod:
this tank also i think near 11km/l. what can be wrong man.
well mine not yet 5000 but FC dropped from 11.5km/ltr (that the best I achieved) to now only 10.5km/ltr ...top up indicator light up at 380....super sian kena a car like this... :mad:
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well mine not yet 5000 but FC dropped from 11.5km/ltr (that the best I achieved) to now only 10.5km/ltr ...top up indicator light up at 380....super sian kena a car like this... :mad:
my 570 indicator light still not light up yet. y there is so much diff?
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well mine not yet 5000 but FC dropped from 11.5km/ltr (that the best I achieved) to now only 10.5km/ltr ...top up indicator light up at 380....super sian kena a car like this... :mad:
Be patient. Your car is still running in. :smile:
Fuel economy should improve considerably after the 10,000km oil change.
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sigh my fc is seriously something wrong. tyre pressure ok, engine still new (8000km?), footing average, not much change in travel pattern, car is stock, spare tyre still at the back.. ... last 2 tanks 11km/l :nonod:
this tank also i think near 11km/l. what can be wrong man.
Sometimes my FC also differs because of different traffic conditions.
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Sometimes my FC also differs because of different traffic conditions.
hmm past 5 mths, traveling up and down the same route (aljunied to katong, then katong to Tampines-PIE then back to aljunied)... my FC still 11.3km/l too.. mileage is 5800km liao
hope it gets better after my 10k servicing
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Be patient. Your car is still running in. :smile:
Fuel economy should improve considerably after the 10,000km oil change.
hope so....thou pump prices has dropped somewhat but something tells me it is not going to remain at this for long...
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Hello all
My FC has improved ("back to original avg FC") to 12.5km/L 2 to 3 weeks after I changed my 4 new GR80 tyres.
Good.
Regards.
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hi all
gosh
guess what
i just went Caltex @ Buana Vista to pump to full tank
the FC dropped to 8.6km/L :)
haha.
terrible drop.
partly due to 2ndlink causeway jam on Sunday. but well, it shld not drop that much vs the previous tank of 12.5km/L.
first time hit 8.6km/L! donno what's the cause. sigh......
regards.
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Hi iagree, if u jam > 1 hr, the FC will drop very significantly...if just 1/2 hr, so far for me can't really exp big FC drop..
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Idling engine if i am not wrong takes about 1l/hour.. tat's equiv to 10-14 km of travel...
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iagree,
You can turn off air con during traffic jam to save on petrol.
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turn off air-con provided the weather is cool, or else already stuck in jam in hot weather w/o air-con equal to a very angry man :mad:
fyi, noticed my fc drop somemore to 490km travel top up 37.5l of petrol since using fastflo, or is it because my wife started driving my car recently, different driving pattern may contribute to bad fc also.
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Idling engine if i am not wrong takes about 1l/hour.. tat's equiv to 10-14 km of travel...
hi bro detach8, yr data is based on yr exp or info getting from elsewhere? Do share with all. Thanks.
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turn off air-con provided the weather is cool, or else already stuck in jam in hot weather w/o air-con equal to a very angry man :mad:
fyi, noticed my fc drop somemore to 490km travel top up 37.5l of petrol since using fastflo, or is it because my wife started driving my car recently, different driving pattern may contribute to bad fc also.
Your car's ECU (Engine Control Unit) needs time to adapt to a new driver's (your wife) driving habits.
Your FC should stabilise after some time.
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Your car's ECU (Engine Control Unit) needs time to adapt to a new driver's (your wife) driving habits.
Your FC should stabilise after some time.
Oh u mean if different pple driving the same car daily will cause the FC to drop? Hm.mm.....cos every morning, me and hubby will switch car to drive to Shenton way to have breakfast before ERP turn on and then we will switch car again after breakfast when i drive to work at paya lebar...why we do tat...so tat both of us will be equally comfortable in driving both cars....
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hi bro detach8, yr data is based on yr exp or info getting from elsewhere? Do share with all. Thanks.
hey bro i got this data from somewhere... so it's off my mind and no 100% proof, but those with a FC meter can probably determine.
Hmm why not let's idle our car for 2 days (48hours) and see if the tank goes empty... :w00t: i think people must be thinking my brain somewhere the wire connect wrong
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hi bro...good try..after u :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
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shucks, hope it will stabilise at my original fc and not at the current fc
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just pumped 36.58L aft travelling 534.8km
my 4AT fc=14.6km/l
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At my 10K servicing, read from the service report that the engine is tuned. Then hor, the last tank my FC seem to be up.
Any 1 got similiar experience ah?
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At my 10K servicing, read from the service report that the engine is tuned. Then hor, the last tank my FC seem to be up.
Any 1 got similiar experience ah?
hi alang
i just done the 30000 km service at autosaver.
after servicing, i can feel the car has more power (new EO chg?)
last wk, i feel the car quite bo lat... the FC sinked to 8.6km/L (partly due to JAM at sg chkpt when i was coming back fr jb)
2 days ago, when i drive fr sg to KL, when i rch KL, i pumped esso f1 to full tank, it's abt 12.5km/L, not too bad.
regards.
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normally if u drive NSH, the FC should be around 14 - 17km/l
hi alang
i just done the 30000 km service at autosaver.
after servicing, i can feel the car has more power (new EO chg?)
last wk, i feel the car quite bo lat... the FC sinked to 8.6km/L (partly due to JAM at sg chkpt when i was coming back fr jb)
2 days ago, when i drive fr sg to KL, when i rch KL, i pumped esso f1 to full tank, it's abt 12.5km/L, not too bad.
regards.
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hi alang
i just done the 30000 km service at autosaver.
after servicing, i can feel the car has more power (new EO chg?)
last wk, i feel the car quite bo lat... the FC sinked to 8.6km/L (partly due to JAM at sg chkpt when i was coming back fr jb)
2 days ago, when i drive fr sg to KL, when i rch KL, i pumped esso f1 to full tank, it's abt 12.5km/L, not too bad.
regards.
12.5km/l seems a little low for highway driving.
Some forumers here have reported achieving 15km/l.
At what speed were you travelling for your S'pore to KL route?
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12.5km/l seems a little low for highway driving.
Some forumers here have reported achieving 15km/l.
At what speed were you travelling for your S'pore to KL route?
Highway driving also depends on 4AT or CVT, 4AT if you're going faster than 120kmh, 12.5km/l is not bad. I went up expecting more but is about the same as RPM is above 2.5K all the time.
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Comparing CVT and 4A/T, which is more economical?
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I always go from spore to ALor setar
Speed is average around 120 - 130 with 3k rpm.
Still can achieve around 15 -16km /l
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If you can resist the urge, 90km/h at NSH confirm will give you more than 18km/l :yehyeh:
I could get 16+km/l, keeping 110-120km/h
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If you can resist the urge, 90km/h at NSH confirm will give you more than 18km/l :yehyeh:
I could get 16+km/l, keeping 110-120km/h
Most of the vehicles will overtake you. :D
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normally if u drive NSH, the FC should be around 14 - 17km/l
Hi robtan99
Yday, drove from KL to Tuas, at 140km/h to 180km/h with 3000 to 4500 rpm.
FC dropped to 10.5 + - km/L :) Terrible. Nonstop from KL Sg Besi to 2ndLink ESSO station.
Regards.
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Comparing CVT and 4A/T, which is more economical?
Hi clarence,
Personally, I like CVT if the road is unblock for us to continue to cheong nonstop. But if there are cars block in front of us, then CVT is verys low to accelerate to cheong. That make me feel sian.
But i like CVT now if i drive in NSHW if the road is unblocked.
Regards.
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Most of the vehicles will overtake you. :D
Hi Jazz
Well, I would say i will be the first one to potong his car until he cannot see my tail :)
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Hi Jazz
Well, I would say i will be the first one to potong his car until he cannot see my tail :)
Hi iagree,
Althought your confidence level rose, but still drive with care ya. Enjoy. :thumbsup:
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Hi iagree,
Althought your confidence level rose, but still drive with care ya. Enjoy. :thumbsup:
Jazz,
Well, I must know my ride well before I drive faster.
I am always careful, but still subject to other careless drivers (suxkers)
I am not worrying as long as I am paying attention and look at least 3 to 4 cars ahead of me & also those cars coming from my asssss ... Win-win. Very careful.
Regards.
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Jazz,
Well, I must know my ride well before I drive faster.
I am always careful, but still subject to other careless drivers (suxkers)
I am not worrying as long as I am paying attention and look at least 3 to 4 cars ahead of me & also those cars coming from my asssss ... Win-win. Very careful.
Regards.
Hi iagree,
Yep I agree with you, somtimes it others careless drivers that create accidents.
But my advise is confident is good, but don't over-confident ya. ;)
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You must also ensure that your car's tyres are properly inflated, have adequate thread and your brake pads are not bald, for highway highspeed driving on the NSH.
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Hi iagree,
Yep I agree with you, somtimes it others careless drivers that create accidents.
But my advise is confident is good, but don't over-confident ya. ;)
Hi Jazz
Thanks for your concerns, i know you are very kind-hearted. I appreciated alot.
No worries.
Usually I have no confident to drive at night.
Day time, I can cheong to the max. And, I am very careful, 人车合一... You know what is this? 1stly, we must have the mutual feeling/understanding with our car otherwise, don't speed or drive fast... 2ndly, the road conditions must take note before we speed, 3rdly, the weather, we must know our limit to cope with diff type of weather. and so on. 天地人车合一!
When you drive faster than other cars, it is hard for them to hit your asssss...
The side mirrors, rear mirror, we must always biooo the cars next to us or behind us always, probably every 3 to 5 seconds got to biooo once. U must take note. This is very one of the most important factors.... to drive safely............
Regards.
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Hi Jazz
Thanks for your concerns, i know you are very kind-hearted. I appreciated alot.
No worries.
Usually I have no confident to drive at night.
Day time, I can cheong to the max. And, I am very careful, 人车合一... You know what is this? 1stly, we must have the mutual feeling/understanding with our car otherwise, don't speed or drive fast... 2ndly, the road conditions must take note before we speed, 3rdly, the weather, we must know our limit to cope with diff type of weather. and so on. 天地人车合一!
When you drive faster than other cars, it is hard for them to hit your asssss...
The side mirrors, rear mirror, we must always biooo the cars next to us or behind us always, probably every 3 to 5 seconds got to biooo once. U must take note. This is very one of the most important factors.... to drive safely............
Regards.
hi iagree, u sound like so confident in yr driving skills :thumbsup:..but hor..if u met the "plot" at Malaysia HW (just like my friend did on 1st day of Chinese new year), the "Kancil" in front jammed brake and short after that speed up again to get away...Make a guess, how many car behind got it................................................
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Total 6 cars (with my friend on the 3rd placing), within second, my friend was offered the "Towing" service :devil2: :devil2: :devil2:
===> Cost him RM$500 for less than 10km tow. And...he has to scrapped his 1.8 Altis (less than 3 yrs) and get back only $40k (Vs he bought at >$80k)...
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This happens on Singapore highways too.
Nothing new.
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hi iagree, u sound like so confident in yr driving skills :thumbsup:..but hor..if u met the "plot" at Malaysia HW (just like my friend did on 1st day of Chinese new year), the "Kancil" in front jammed brake and short after that speed up again to get away...Make a guess, how many car behind got it......
Total 6 cars (with my friend on the 3rd placing), within second, my friend was offered the "Towing" service :devil2: :devil2: :devil2:
===> Cost him RM$500 for less than 10km tow. And...he has to scrapped his 1.8 Altis (less than 3 yrs) and get back only $40k (Vs he bought at >$80k)...
Hello LatioR
i not fully agree. before i start my explaination below, i would like to emphasize to u guys that, the FC will be very lousy if we speed!!!
i am not very confident in my driving skills, i believe i am confident in my 'careful' to handle those drivers. we need to pay attention to observe their driving patterns. some drivers are lulu one, some drivers are slow motion one.... but i like those people who drive BM or Benz or any cars that can drive faster than me probably at least 160km/h, so that I can follow them and let them OPEN the road for me. BUT one thing to take note of, I will not speed to tail near him because I want to maintain the distance of at least 3 to 5 cars btw his car & my car (i am behind), why so? to have 'space' and 'reserve' for emergency, be careful is good. Precaution. Prevention is better than cure although we drive abit faster... I would say, Latio is very zai!!! Stable & firm esply with better grip tyres, it's more zai on the road.
We need to adjust ourselves to different type of situations & enviroment. e.g. road conditions, weathers, those drivers' patterns (fast or slow driving) and so on. alot of factors. But, i don't think i can be PERFECT, i am just trying my best to be careful nia.
Sorry ya, this is my 20cents view only.
Btw, poorer FC hor, 10.5km/L only for my last tank (from KL to JB 2ndlink) but it is ok... :)
Regards.
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OT :Offtopic:
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This happens on Singapore highways too.
Nothing new.
Hi clarence
iagree. Towing service is always awaiting for water fish also.
Our "FC" is getting worse (compliance to the topic) :)
Regards.
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think i give up on my latio's Fc already..
Last time ..
Latio drink with macdonald straw
Now ....
Latio drink with bubble tea straw
Future :
Latio drink with PVC pipe liaoz.
Currently 150km @ half tank... :crying:
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think i give up on my latio's Fc already..
Last time ..
Latio drink with macdonald straw
Now ....
Latio drink with bubble tea straw
Future :
Latio drink with PVC pipe liaoz.
Currently 150km @ half tank... :crying:
hi idiotboi89
my recent tank i pumped yday at jb mobil, hit fc=10km/L. very jialat. but is reasonable coz i kena jam for more than 1hr @ chkpoint. traffic jam waste my fc at least reduce the fc by 1 to 2 km/L...
sadness....
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think i give up on my latio's Fc already..
Last time ..
Latio drink with macdonald straw
Now ....
Latio drink with bubble tea straw
Future :
Latio drink with PVC pipe liaoz.
Currently 150km @ half tank... :crying:
bro,
u lup ur accelerator hiong hiong is it? just be a bit gentle to it and u can get better. i conplaint til i oso sian liao but TCM cant do much abt the FC thing. so mine normally abt 10 - 12 km/l. nothing more than that. think change ur driving pattern shld help ;)
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bro,
u lup ur accelerator hiong hiong is it? just be a bit gentle to it and u can get better. i conplaint til i oso sian liao but TCM cant do much abt the FC thing. so mine normally abt 10 - 12 km/l. nothing more than that. think change ur driving pattern shld help ;)
hi maxngck
i thk u r right.
dun complaint to tcm, we shld 'sayang' our latio more .... then she will love us for sure.
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kena JB 2hrs jam 1 time, came back with the vpower and still able to clock 14.5 for that tank(if not usually is 15.5). I dont agree a 1hr+ jam will reduce ur fc by so much (as in 2km/l)...1km/l maybe
hi idiotboi89
my recent tank i pumped yday at jb mobil, hit fc=10km/L. very jialat. but is reasonable coz i kena jam for more than 1hr @ chkpoint. traffic jam waste my fc at least reduce the fc by 1 to 2 km/L...
sadness....
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think i give up on my latio's Fc already..
Last time ..
Latio drink with macdonald straw
Now ....
Latio drink with bubble tea straw
Future :
Latio drink with PVC pipe liaoz.
Currently 150km @ half tank... :crying:
gerald, u sure urs 150km half tank? I think urs is 100 percent city
Plus, your FRIENDS who all lompang a ride from u everyday from school ( if it happens), it adds to the weight mah.
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gerald, u sure urs 150km half tank? I think urs is 100 percent city
Plus, your FRIENDS who all lompang a ride from u everyday from school ( if it happens), it adds to the weight mah.
I think 150km @ half tank is abnormal. Even everyday full load drive to school also wun be so jialat one leh.... even worse than my prev getz 1.3A... *sweat*.
probably some critical part of the car need some maintenance.. to bring the FC back to normal.
I increase my tire pressure and try to rev abt 2k RPM. Clocked 280km with 19 litres, that is about 14.7 km/litre.... still trying to improve....
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bro,
u lup ur accelerator hiong hiong is it? just be a bit gentle to it and u can get better. i conplaint til i oso sian liao but TCM cant do much abt the FC thing. so mine normally abt 10 - 12 km/l. nothing more than that. think change ur driving pattern shld help ;)
Hi maxngck, look like yr FC really quite bad lei..mine improve from ~average 12km/l to 13~14km/l by follow some tips given by fellow lations there (refer to below link), tyre presure at 270/250 (but will reduce to 250/230 to have more comfortable ride), etc..
http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=7240.0
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gerald, u sure urs 150km half tank? I think urs is 100 percent city
Plus, your FRIENDS who all lompang a ride from u everyday from school ( if it happens), it adds to the weight mah.
@ least 20 percent highway ba... even lompang also one person to outside school only.. shouldnt be that bad..
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probably some critical part of the car need some maintenance.. to bring the FC back to normal.
I increase my tire pressure and try to rev abt 2k RPM. Clocked 280km with 19 litres, that is about 14.7 km/litre.... still trying to improve....
No idea about this leh actually.. my tyre pressure no change leh still 250 in front and 230 behind. car wise feels normal..
Now give up on fc le.. just drive as per normal.. maybe time for driver to slim down ;D
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@ least 20 percent highway ba... even lompang also one person to outside school only.. shouldnt be that bad..
how long does it take for you to finish one full tank before you top up?
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kena JB 2hrs jam 1 time, came back with the vpower and still able to clock 14.5 for that tank(if not usually is 15.5). I dont agree a 1hr+ jam will reduce ur fc by so much (as in 2km/l)...1km/l maybe
hi Novellus
thanks for ur disagree.
not sure, i thk my car is having bad FC now. last nite i drove to jb again. pump 1/4 tank, clock 10.2km/L only :(
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hi Novellus
thanks for ur disagree.
not sure, i thk my car is having bad FC now. last nite i drove to jb again. pump 1/4 tank, clock 10.2km/L only :(
short trip plus jam will sure gv ur bad fc.
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Hi maxngck, look like yr FC really quite bad lei..mine improve from ~average 12km/l to 13~14km/l by follow some tips given by fellow lations there (refer to below link), tyre presure at 270/250 (but will reduce to 250/230 to have more comfortable ride), etc..
http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=7240.0
hi!
tried those method but seem to be no avail. sometime feel like heart die （死心了）oridi. before i bought head about the good fc from latio. after driving abt a yr +, my fc is bad which i hv been very gentle to it. looking at some others out there having such great fc, dunno wat to say :weep:. mayb blame it on my wider tyres....... dunno wat else to blame :bleh:
now i just drive as normal not to be like as fc concoius as previous. when need to lut abit, i lut lor. else just drive as usual. tried additives oso no use.... :nonod:. sigh....just keep envying others out there lor ;)
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hi!
tried those method but seem to be no avail. sometime feel like heart die （死心了）oridi. before i bought head about the good fc from latio. after driving abt a yr +, my fc is bad which i hv been very gentle to it. looking at some others out there having such great fc, dunno wat to say :weep:. mayb blame it on my wider tyres....... dunno wat else to blame :bleh:
now i just drive as normal not to be like as fc concoius as previous. when need to lut abit, i lut lor. else just drive as usual. tried additives oso no use.... :nonod:. sigh....just keep envying others out there lor ;)
Nissan cars are generally poor in FC due to the design . be
it latio, sunny, teana , sylphy cefiro Shd consider toyota cars in future
cheers
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not as bad as Mazda....the Atenza and Axela guzz petrol
Nissan cars are generally poor in FC due to the design . be
it latio, sunny, teana , sylphy cefiro Shd consider toyota cars in future
cheers
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Nissan cars are generally poor in FC due to the design . be
it latio, sunny, teana , sylphy cefiro Shd consider toyota cars in future
cheers
y i choose this car is becoz it is made in japan. compared toyota b4 and feel the interior is so plasticky. latio interior is so nice and good which u cant find in others. so hv to compromise lor ;)
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short trip plus jam will sure gv ur bad fc.
hi max
iagree w u. i noticed that too. for more accurate fc measurement, need to drive nshw aso. if fr sg to jb, job to sg, clementi to town , town to clementi, is not accurate 1 (+ jam at chkpoint, and lots of traffic lights stoppings)
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y i choose this car is becoz it is made in japan. compared toyota b4 and feel the interior is so plasticky. latio interior is so nice and good which u cant find in others. so hv to compromise lor ;)
hi max
iagree w u. i aso like latio is fr japan.
but i aso heard that nissan cars are famous in 'eat fuel'.... lousy fc vs toyota cars.
now i thk it is darn true?
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hi max
iagree w u. i aso like latio is fr japan.
but i aso heard that nissan cars are famous in 'eat fuel'.... lousy fc vs toyota cars.
now i thk it is darn true?
hi!
actually before i bought this car, hv read thru the review, forums,..... that this car very good mah. 1 fren oso driving this and his fc oso quite good. so in the end decided to buy this car lor. so far i m satisfy with it, nothing to complain. just only fc no good lor.
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hi!
tried those method but seem to be no avail. sometime feel like heart die （死心了）oridi. before i bought head about the good fc from latio. after driving abt a yr +, my fc is bad which i hv been very gentle to it. looking at some others out there having such great fc, dunno wat to say :weep:. mayb blame it on my wider tyres....... dunno wat else to blame :bleh:
now i just drive as normal not to be like as fc concoius as previous. when need to lut abit, i lut lor. else just drive as usual. tried additives oso no use.... :nonod:. sigh....just keep envying others out there lor ;)
what's yr FC b4 change to wider tyre?
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how long does it take for you to finish one full tank before you top up?
hmm u mean time .. or Distance in total?
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what's yr FC b4 change to wider tyre?
hahaaa... on the very 1st day when i got my ride, i oridi piah down to ubi to change my tyre to 205/ 55/ r16 :devil2:. so i dunno what is the fc with original tyre. my bro latio sport using original tyre can hit at least 14km/l. sigh............. :weep:
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hmm u mean time .. or Distance in total?
time. my current tank also 160km half tank but that is almost 2 weeks since last top up. CVT FC will be bad for frequent short start stop city driving, then CVT have its advantages on FC for longer HW driving. My FC in term of km/l is bad but can't complain since one tank can last almost one month :bleh:
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another 150 @ half tank.. kinda saddening man.. been going downhill since long time ago..
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hi max
iagree w u. i aso like latio is fr japan.
but i aso heard that nissan cars are famous in 'eat fuel'.... lousy fc vs toyota cars.
now i thk it is darn true?
Hi iagree,
Not only Nissan, all cars drink fuel unless yours eat electric or gas ? :bleh:
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another 150 @ half tank.. kinda saddening man.. been going downhill since long time ago..
150km half tank is for daily 7km round trip with multiple stop and go pattern. when drive to melaka @ ~135kmh still can get >14km/l
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150km half tank is for daily 7km round trip with multiple stop and go pattern. when drive to melaka @ ~135kmh still can get >14km/l
been driving @ least 50 percent highways.. back and forth airport.. back and forth jurong.. and still 150km .. 2 days clock 150km.. == half tank.. damm jialat
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been driving @ least 50 percent highways.. back and forth airport.. back and forth jurong.. and still 150km .. 2 days clock 150km.. == half tank.. damm jialat
hmm... some things wrong liao.
whats your
1) rim size and tyre pressure
2) EO, petrol
3) mod?
4) mileage?
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hmm... some things wrong liao.
whats your
1) rim size and tyre pressure
2) EO, petrol
3) mod?
4) mileage?
rim size : Default 15 inch rim with Latio basic + 500 to upgrade to leather seat plus rim
Eo : Mobile 5w 30 if my memory serves me right
petrol : caltex 95
mod : ECU and spark bridge
mileage : 237xx as of now
:D
Drink more den GTR lol
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so no error reading on your speedo. You use 5W30 and ECU programming, engine should be more efficient than mine leh. You change battery before? engine sound different lately?
can consider asking the ECU mod vendor to verify your ecu setting, may be do a servicing there too. TCM can only reset your ECU at most.
"Drink more den GTR" == "Drive more like GTR" :bleh:
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so no error reading on your speedo. You use 5W30 and ECU programming, engine should be more efficient than mine leh. You change battery before? engine sound different lately?
can consider asking the ECU mod vendor to verify your ecu setting, may be do a servicing there too. TCM can only reset your ECU at most.
"Drink more den GTR" == "Drive more like GTR" :bleh:
Nope no change battery, Car feels normal.. if not, better. Been pumping up my tyres and stuff.. shouldnt get that bad.. Must be extra weight i gained recently :D
Haha i good boy.. i drive slowly 1 :devil2:
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I was getting 13km/L on my last tank. 150km on the half tank mark seems really really low. Maybe check your air intake or anything to see if its choke. Could you have a faulty MAF as well?
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hi all
nowadays, i have no chance to see my 13km/L liao :(
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hi all
nowadays, i have no chance to see my 13km/L liao :(
wah, "you drive like GTR == drink like GTR" ah :D
put it this way, cost for petrol is much lower than last time >$2. Last time 14Km/l cost more $$ than say 12km/L now. Just pump and drive.
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I was getting 13km/L on my last tank. 150km on the half tank mark seems really really low. Maybe check your air intake or anything to see if its choke. Could you have a faulty MAF as well?
Hmm not sure leh. Car feels the same from last time.. just tat FC went up.. so now i give up liaoz.. drive abit faster.. at least i feel more justified for the FC gulping car ;D
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wah, "you drive like GTR == drink like GTR" ah :D
put it this way, cost for petrol is much lower than last time >$2. Last time 14Km/l cost more $$ than say 12km/L now. Just pump and drive.
hahaha Very true !
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hi all
nowadays, i have no chance to see my 13km/L liao :(
Before first servicing .. 14-15
After first servicing .. 12-13
Now.. @#!%!^%
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After 6 months and coming up to my first 10000km, my FC from day one till now has never gone beyond 11.5km/ltr which was taken from first pump....now a days FC is between 10.5 to 11km.. :( :(
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After 6 months and coming up to my first 10000km, my FC from day one till now has never gone beyond 11.5km/ltr which was taken from first pump....now a days FC is between 10.5 to 11km.. :( :(
mine also never hit 12km/ltr before. sat just did my 10k servicing, will monitor again. using their free engine oil which could last 5k, so my next servicing will be at 15k km.
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mine also never hit 12km/ltr before. sat just did my 10k servicing, will monitor again. using their free engine oil which could last 5k, so my next servicing will be at 15k km.
hi iwilly
when i was using the free EO from tcm from 1000km, 5000km, and 10000km free servicing fr tcm, my FC was around 13km/L.
after chg to fully synthetic EO, the FC is hardly hit 13km/L (in avg) liao...
recent mths is worsening, hit around 10km/L nia! bad.
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hi iwilly
when i was using the free EO from tcm from 1000km, 5000km, and 10000km free servicing fr tcm, my FC was around 13km/L.
after chg to fully synthetic EO, the FC is hardly hit 13km/L (in avg) liao...
recent mths is worsening, hit around 10km/L nia! bad.
That's strange, what EO are u using now??? can't be that bad leh.. i notice that when my FC go bad.. i take out the air filter to check very dirty :ohmy:
after my 20K serivicing at Nissan i change to OEM one.. cheap so i'm thinking every 10K change one pc...maybe u can get from ur in-laws and change see if it helps :bleh:
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That's strange, what EO are u using now??? can't be that bad leh.. i notice that when my FC go bad.. i take out the air filter to check very dirty :ohmy:
after my 20K serivicing at Nissan i change to OEM one.. cheap so i'm thinking every 10K change one pc...maybe u can get from ur in-laws and change see if it helps :bleh:
hi latiorarri
ic.
i think EO & Filter is not an issue for my case.
i am sorry, my filter & eo just chg at tcm 2wks ago (wed) , using my npmp pkg. major service. first npmp out of the 4 free service (fr npmp)
i thk it is mainly due to alot of start-stop driving effects in sg and at sg / my chkpoints. alot of traffic lights in sg, drive for short distance then kena stop at traffic light again.
regards.
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hi latiorarri
ic.
i think EO & Filter is not an issue for my case.
i am sorry, my filter & eo just chg at tcm 2wks ago (wed) , using my npmp pkg. major service. first npmp out of the 4 free service (fr npmp)
i thk it is mainly due to alot of start-stop driving effects in sg and at sg / my chkpoints. alot of traffic lights in sg, drive for short distance then kena stop at traffic light again.
regards.
Hee.. that explains. ::)
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Hee.. that explains. ::)
hi Latiorarri
ya, u hv to agree loh :)
relax & take it easy.
traffic is hard to control.
just do it, think later.
i already spent to pay for the "comfort" (purchase NPMP @ S$1091! :) )
so, no regret ya. very comfortable. hassle free.
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hi Latiorarri
ya, u hv to agree loh :)
relax & take it easy.
traffic is hard to control.
just do it, think later.
i already spent to pay for the "comfort" (purchase NPMP @ S$1091! :) )
so, no regret ya. very comfortable. hassle free.
I also intend to take up this Plan
Tomorrow 4OK serving :yehyeh:
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I also intend to take up this Plan
Tomorrow 4OK serving :yehyeh:
hi ccsSGM
i already paid and feel comfortable coz i like hassle-free.
why must we always bother "go for autosaver?" or other workshop in msia?
or this n that...
hassle-free, go TCM and ask them to fix everything for us! we PAY tcm to service us! goooooooooo
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hi ccsSGM
i already paid and feel comfortable coz i like hassle-free.
why must we always bother "go for autosaver?" or other workshop in msia?
or this n that...
hassle-free, go TCM and ask them to fix everything for us! we PAY tcm to service us! goooooooooo
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
hi ccsSGM
ya, that is the price we pay tcm to service us kau kau leh.
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That's strange, what EO are u using now??? can't be that bad leh.. i notice that when my FC go bad.. i take out the air filter to check very dirty :ohmy:
after my 20K serivicing at Nissan i change to OEM one.. cheap so i'm thinking every 10K change one pc...maybe u can get from ur in-laws and change see if it helps :bleh:
hi latioarri. im using the EO free from tcm.
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hi iwilly
when i was using the free EO from tcm from 1000km, 5000km, and 10000km free servicing fr tcm, my FC was around 13km/L.
after chg to fully synthetic EO, the FC is hardly hit 13km/L (in avg) liao...
recent mths is worsening, hit around 10km/L nia! bad.
hi iagree
urs better than me. since day 1 till now my car nv hit above 12km/ ltr, at most 11.5km/ltr.
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mine also never hit 12km/ltr before. sat just did my 10k servicing, will monitor again. using their free engine oil which could last 5k, so my next servicing will be at 15k km.
i thought 10k onwards using synthetic which can last another 10k and next servicing should be 20k...
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yup should be semi synthetic that y can only last for 5000km, fully synthetic can last 10 000km.
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i thought 10k onwards using synthetic which can last another 10k and next servicing should be 20k...
If you have the "free" NPMP on top of the 1st 3 free servicings, then the 10,000km service uses synthetic. If u only the the 1st 3 free servicings, then the 10,000km service uses mineral oil. i only found this out when i spoke to the TCM service centre people during my 1,000km service.
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hi ccsSGM
i already paid and feel comfortable coz i like hassle-free.
why must we always bother "go for autosaver?" or other workshop in msia?
or this n that...
hassle-free, go TCM and ask them to fix everything for us! we PAY tcm to service us! goooooooooo
Yep, I agree. :thumbsup:
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If you have the "free" NPMP on top of the 1st 3 free servicings, then the 10,000km service uses synthetic. If u only the the 1st 3 free servicings, then the 10,000km service uses mineral oil. i only found this out when i spoke to the TCM service centre people during my 1,000km service.
hi,
can i change to syntheic oil when i m doing 5k servicing?
so i can last till 15000k for my last and final servicing with TCM :devil2:
that wat i do for my first kimchi ride.
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hahaaa... on the very 1st day when i got my ride, i oridi piah down to ubi to change my tyre to 205/ 55/ r16 :devil2:. so i dunno what is the fc with original tyre. my bro latio sport using original tyre can hit at least 14km/l. sigh............. :weep:
hi, mine just changed 1 pair (front) to 195/55/15 from stock tyre last sat and really can feel a big drop in FC too, eg. b4 change, can hit 130 to 140km (this is partially due to the reseting of ECU by autosaver) for the 1st 1/4 mark but now only seeing abt 100km. Shall monitor and feedback after few more tanks.
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hi, mine just changed 1 pair (front) to 195/55/15 from stock tyre last sat and really can feel a big drop in FC too, eg. b4 change, can hit 130 to 140km (this is partially due to the reseting of ECU by autosaver) for the 1st 1/4 mark but now only seeing abt 100km. Shall monitor and feedback after few more tanks.
hmm.. y change only i pair?
anyway.. dun think will b any much diff in fc as u using 15' rim which is the same as stock.
in fact, it shld be better as the sport rim are much lighter than the stock :confused1:
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hi all
nowadays, i have no chance to see my 13km/L liao :(
hi bro, what's yr tyre size now? start to worry aby tyre size Vs FC :scared:
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hi bro, what's yr tyre size now? start to worry aby tyre size Vs FC :scared:
hi LatioR
same as stock tyre size leh. didnt change the size, oni chg the tyres to GR80 oni, same size.
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i'm referring to width and height of the tyre lah...eg. stock is 185/65/15 Vs mine new Good Year Tyre 195/55/15 lah
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i'm referring to width and height of the tyre lah...eg. stock is 185/65/15 Vs mine new Good Year Tyre 195/55/15 lah
Hi, correction, mine sb 195/60/15. As for bro iagree, Hankook sb same as stock tyre (have seen my friend also using the same brand).
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hi, mine just changed 1 pair (front) to 195/60/15 from stock tyre last sat and really can feel a big drop in FC too, eg. b4 change, can hit 130 to 140km (this is partially due to the reseting of ECU by autosaver) for the 1st 1/4 mark but now only seeing abt 100km. Shall monitor and feedback after few more tanks.
hi all, like to feedback my FC as per above. My FC not much diff in local but really can see a big diff in M'sia NSHW, eg. normally can only hit 16+km/l in NSHW but my last FC (during CNY back from Penang, almost 100% HW), can hit 19+km/l which is to my surprise too.
**p/s: Believed the reseting of ECU at Autosaver (especially on RPM) b4 CNY is really a great help, not a change of tyres.
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hi all, like to feedback my FC as per above. My FC not much diff in local but really can see a big diff in M'sia NSHW, eg. normally can only hit 16+km/l in NSHW but my last FC (during CNY back from Penang, almost 100% HW), can hit 19+km/l which is to my surprise too.
**p/s: Believed the reseting of ECU at Autosaver (especially on RPM) b4 CNY is really a great help, not a change of tyres.
wah! :w00t: ur fc good man. my cny trip to perlis oso almost 100% HW best hit only 16-17 km/l nia. now at TCM BT doing my 20k servicing. complaining to them abt my bad fc :devil2:. hope this time they can help to settle it
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hi all, like to feedback my FC as per above. My FC not much diff in local but really can see a big diff in M'sia NSHW, eg. normally can only hit 16+km/l in NSHW but my last FC (during CNY back from Penang, almost 100% HW), can hit 19+km/l which is to my surprise too.
**p/s: Believed the reseting of ECU at Autosaver (especially on RPM) b4 CNY is really a great help, not a change of tyres.
happy new year bro, how's the traffic. and what time you travel?
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After my 1st full tank, managed to achieve 15.61km/L and trip computer also reads about 15.62km/L. And immediately today changed tyres to 195/60R15 PP2. Will continue to monitor and hopefully after my 1K servicing this sat, it would still be as good. ::)
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wah! :w00t: ur fc good man. my cny trip to perlis oso almost 100% HW best hit only 16-17 km/l nia. now at TCM BT doing my 20k servicing. complaining to them abt my bad fc :devil2:. hope this time they can help to settle it
Hi maxngck, aiya, 16 ~17km/l sb consider quite good already, still want to complain, like that really cannot tahan lah....
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happy new year bro, how's the traffic. and what time you travel?
Gong Xi Fa Cai Bro Ying, the traffic quite smooth with occasionally short jam. It's ard 10am (on 2nd day of CNY), from Penang to Tangkak (small town next to Malacca) but travel with really slow speed at 90 to 110km/h (only occasionally hit 120 ~130km/h especially overtaking)
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Gong Xi Fa Cai Bro Ying, the traffic quite smooth with occasionally short jam. It's ard 10am (on 2nd day of CNY), from Penang to Tangkak (small town next to Malacca) but travel with really slow speed at 90 to 110km/h (only occasionally hit 120 ~130km/h especially overtaking)
Yo Bro,
You considered 90 to 110km/hr is really slow speed ? Dare-devil sia. :devil2:
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Yo Bro,
You considered 90 to 110km/hr is really slow speed ? Dare-devil sia. :devil2:
seriouly, if not because of traffic jam I can't drive at 90kmh or less at high way at all. It is very easy to overshoot 110kmh with my CVT without me knowing. May be I should check my shoe got weight or not.
Lucky you bro LatioR, It took me 3hrs to clear just Tuas and MY checkpoint on 24 Jan morning. Then slow traffic all the way to Jasin takes another 3 hrs, that's with some overtaking from the "3rd lane".
FC still 13kml for that tank.
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Yes, I second that. With CVT, the RPM goes up till 40km/h before dipping a bit and picks up again and stays at 2.3k rpm and stays there for my case. While the engine sound stays the same, the speedometer just keeps going up and up. If you are not checking on it, you won't even know that you have hit 100km/h in a short while.
seriouly, if not because of traffic jam I can't drive at 90kmh or less at high way at all. It is very easy to overshoot 110kmh with my CVT without me knowing. May be I should check my shoe got weight or not.
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Hi maxngck, aiya, 16 ~17km/l sb consider quite good already, still want to complain, like that really cannot tahan lah....
hi!
that is on HW. if on normal road, hardly hit 12 leh. isn't this consider bad? :weep:
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hi!
that is on HW. if on normal road, hardly hit 12 leh. isn't this consider bad? :weep:
Mine is average 12.. still not the kind of FC i am expecting. It is most prob my right foot...
Oh.. to add to the chatter. i travelled to Penang on the 29 jan (way before the eve of CNY) Nice trip with zero jams and heavy traffic. Averaged 110-120km/hr and clocked 600km on an almost full tank of Esso 5000 (RON 95). IF only i can get these on local roads..
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I find 12km/ℓ acceptable for city driving. This is what I have been getting also. I'm doing 80% city driving myself.
hi!
that is on HW. if on normal road, hardly hit 12 leh. isn't this consider bad? :weep:
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I find 12km/ℓ acceptable for city driving. This is what I have been getting also. I'm doing 80% city driving myself.
hi!
my case is that i m driving HW most of the time KJE -> PIE and vice versa back to hm from work (Monday to Friday). not all weekend i will go out. so dun think it will affect much.
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hi!
that is on HW. if on normal road, hardly hit 12 leh. isn't this consider bad? :weep:
same here lah, in local, 50% HW and 50% housing area (short trip), the best FC only at 14+km/l nia, normally also
at 12 ~13+km/l (depend if there is a jam at chkpt as usually top up petrol at JB during weekends)...
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Yo Bro,
You considered 90 to 110km/hr is really slow speed ? Dare-devil sia. :devil2:
hi bro, 90 to 110km/h in M'sia considered damn slow already lei, imagine needs to travel for >700km from Sg! Luckily got stop at in law house for 1 night (near Malacca) and sis in law house at klang (for abt 1 hr rest time) on my way to Penang but travel with only 10 mins stop at rest pt + 0.5hrs lunch (outside hw) for 500km+ to reach in law house again on my trip back.
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seriouly, if not because of traffic jam I can't drive at 90kmh or less at high way at all. It is very easy to overshoot 110kmh with my CVT without me knowing. May be I should check my shoe got weight or not.
Lucky you bro LatioR, It took me 3hrs to clear just Tuas and MY checkpoint on 24 Jan morning. Then slow traffic all the way to Jasin takes another 3 hrs, that's with some overtaking from the "3rd lane".
FC still 13kml for that tank.
ya lor bro, no jam at all on 22 Jan night at 2nd links at both chkpts... AND no jam again on 1 Feb at both JB & Sg chkpts ard 3.30pm ....:yehyeh:
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ya lor bro, no jam at all on 22 Jan night at 2nd links at both chkpts... AND no jam again on 1 Feb at both JB & Sg chkpts ard 3.30pm ....:yehyeh:
sigh, me jam for abt 3 hrs at tuas on the 24/01 (left hm at 4.45am). guess what time i reach Perlis? 11.30pm :scared: :out:. stop at kl for lunch then when uo together with bro in-law. we hv minimum stop thruout the journey. now thinking back, scary man. so tiring.
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hi bro, 90 to 110km/h in M'sia considered damn slow already lei, imagine needs to travel for >700km from Sg! Luckily got stop at in law house for 1 night (near Malacca) and sis in law house at klang (for abt 1 hr rest time) on my way to Penang but travel with only 10 mins stop at rest pt + 0.5hrs lunch (outside hw) for 500km+ to reach in law house again on my trip back.
Yo Bro,
So how is your FC for the long trip consider non-stop, better or worst ?
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I used to get 16km/l, +/-0.5 la.... Doing sales job so meet up 3-4 customers at Tuas so usually 50% city ba.... 50% HW coz office at AMK.... Now lucky can onli get abt 14+km/l.... Can it be due to the servicing or the ECU tuning not done properly?? Or is it the engine oil??
For M'sia road, 2nd link to Pasir Gudang then back with 3/4 tank. Is it ok??
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Yo Bro,
So how is your FC for the long trip consider non-stop, better or worst ?
Hi bro, my FC on NSHW normally at 16+km/l (best result b4 this) and with this slow...speed at 90 to 110km/h, now my
my new best FC is at 19+km/l...
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sigh, me jam for abt 3 hrs at tuas on the 24/01 (left hm at 4.45am). guess what time i reach Perlis? 11.30pm :scared: :out:. stop at kl for lunch then when uo together with bro in-law. we hv minimum stop thruout the journey. now thinking back, scary man. so tiring.
Of course dame "chialat lah" with this jam lah, eg. imagine u reach m'sia (2nd link) at 8am, from 8am to 11.30pm, it abt 15.5hrs, - 2.5hrs stop at KL and other stop, u took 13hrs to travel est 850km+ to reach perlis => average u r on 65km/h niah....Do correct me if i'm wrong...
**U already considered Superb which u can drive for ~19hrs with minimum stop (if u drive alone)
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Of course dame "chialat lah" with this jam lah, eg. imagine u reach m'sia (2nd link) at 8am, from 8am to 11.30pm, it abt 15.5hrs, - 2.5hrs stop at KL and other stop, u took 13hrs to travel est 850km+ to reach perlis => average u r on 65km/h niah....Do correct me if i'm wrong...
**U already considered Superb which u can drive for ~19hrs with minimum stop (if u drive alone)
hahaa... good calculation.
yes, i m driving alone all the way altho my wife knows how to drive. driving on HW need alot concentration and i feel is very dangerous. so i let my wife rest and just chat wif me along the way. i choose not to stop so many times as i just wanna reach destination asap. too tired liao. if there is a chance to speed, we just speed all the way but limited to abt 140 km/hr max.
now think back it was really a nitemare :nonod:
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me too also drive alone to northen part of m'sia (3 to 4 times/yr), but really need to be extra careful especially drive for long distance (do rest more next time which will be a great help although it might be just a 10 mins rest).
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Of course dame "chialat lah" with this jam lah, eg. imagine u reach m'sia (2nd link) at 8am, from 8am to 11.30pm, it abt 15.5hrs, - 2.5hrs stop at KL and other stop, u took 13hrs to travel est 850km+ to reach perlis => average u r on 65km/h niah....Do correct me if i'm wrong...
**U already considered Superb which u can drive for ~19hrs with minimum stop (if u drive alone)
hi latioR
u jam jialat at 2nd link meh?
go by johor town to woodlands, much faster.
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Jus to share....
Doing 60% highway and 40% urban.
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Jus to share....
Doing 60% highway and 40% urban.
SIGH,....THIS IS MY 3/4 TANK MILAGE :crycry:
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SIGH,....THIS IS MY 3/4 TANK MILAGE :crycry:
Wat petrol u using????
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SIGH,....THIS IS MY 3/4 TANK MILAGE :crycry:
Same La...cannot complain liow..we on 16" remember ?
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Wat petrol u using????
i have no specific petrol...sometimes Esso 95 sometimes caltex gold
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Wat petrol u using????
shell 95. if go m'sia sure whack v-power :devil2:
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Same La...cannot complain liow..we on 16" remember ?
yeah. but hor does that really make so much diff? :confused1:
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i'm on 16 as well. half tank dropped from 300 to abt 260 270. but stability gained :thumbsup:
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With all the low FC that you guys are showing, think very soon I want to change car. Want to downgrade liow. Bo Ta Han.
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With all the low FC that you guys are showing, think very soon I want to change car. Want to downgrade liow. Bo Ta Han.
others can get good result oso mah. besides my fc not very satisfy, other thing no complain at all. :thumbsup:
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hi latioR
u jam jialat at 2nd link meh?
go by johor town to woodlands, much faster.
hi bro, not me lah, i referring to maxngck lah...me also damn lucky, not jam...
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Jus to share....
Doing 60% highway and 40% urban.
sighs, i reaching half tank soon. wait till i tk pic n show u mine. u mayb delight w ur FC result. :crycry:
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Jus to share....
Doing 60% highway and 40% urban.
bro you are cheating.. u nv show the mileage for your midnight shopping trips.. :devil2: :devil2:
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bro you are cheating.. u nv show the mileage for your midnight shopping trips.. :devil2: :devil2:
hey..dun expose me lehz...wat midnight shopping??
nowadays cannot shop lehz...next time i shop den post again...jus for u..heehee
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hey..dun expose me lehz...wat midnight shopping??
nowadays cannot shop lehz...next time i shop den post again...jus for u..heehee
hi kyorei82 & kanzo
midnight shopping? why never share with us leh? come
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hi kyorei82 & kanzo
midnight shopping? why never share with us leh? come
midnight shopping king is kenny lahz...haha
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midnight shopping king is kenny lahz...haha
Great Singapore Sale Here ar? :devil2: Yalor...Kenny oways go Shopping after Mid nite
FYI my FC for Full Tank around 350-380km 90% city...
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midnight shopping king is kenny lahz...haha
hi kyorei82
next time count me in aso lah.
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sighs, i reaching half tank soon. wait till i tk pic n show u mine. u mayb delight w ur FC result. :crycry:
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Is the photo ready to share? Time to brighten others at the time of bad economy lei :devil2:
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everytime i see this thread... i depressed.... :crycry:
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don't be depressed
you can ask the high achievers to take you for a ride and you can see how they drive
maybe you can pick up a tip or two?
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don't be depressed
you can ask the high achievers to take you for a ride and you can see how they drive
maybe you can pick up a tip or two?
haha dont think i am tat patient.. i got a fat heavy foot ( excuses )
nowadays usage of car also super inconsistent sometimes use like mad sometimes park @ home.. so hard to actually compare. One thing for sure.. the back suspension seems to be getting lower
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hi kyorei82
next time count me in aso lah.
count u in can..but horz..i dun have ur no. lehz..hehe
my no is all over the forum..haha
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since starting this thread, I've not identify a single effective solution to improving FC for latio.
Some suggested stuff like Spider. and all, but i seriously don't think its going to convince me, well at least from the way some contributors are putting it, I still cannot be convinced.
Some bros may or may not agree with me, but many here dumped their FC contributions by citing their travel experience on NSHW or West Malaysia trips, which I strongly disagree in IMHO that it is a good guage for FC.
Do bear in mind we have audiences here who are newbies to driving, and citing or tempting them to make such long trips are nevertheless hazardous.
However I do have some tips to share based on my past 1 yr driving latio
Tyre pressure - Set Front 250Kpi Rear 230
Engine Oil - Shogun 0w-30
Tyre: Stock
To acheive FC of 14-15 heres what my driving conditions were - most of the time a lone, Traving a daily trip of approx 120KM, driving from Changi Airport to Tuas Ave 5, heavy traffice conditions on some stretch of AYE, I drive ave 80-90KM/hr on most segments, but close to tuas I rev a little to 100-110 km/hr as the road really void of cars and U could really see far ahead. Did this for almost 4 days a week, clock total 560km for 39L of added fuel
To Acheive FC of 11-12, my driving conditions were mainly urban, frequent peak hour traffic light jams only 9Km on HW daily. On average I clock 420KM on 36-37L of fuel.
Mos of the time I am between 11-12. times where I burn more fuel waiting to get into town car park.
To make better FC I also findout letting your car warm for abt 3-5 mins during morning startup saves u FC by up to 1 instead of driving off straigt after parking overnight esp on a cooler morning.
Shogun EO 0w30 also makes a lot of difference. FC used to be erratic and unstable with Mineral oils and Fasflo full sync oil. For almost 5K now on shogun, FC are very stable
Since most of us are average car users who drive from home to work and then drop or pickup wife kids, occasional travel to malls on weekends, I can say this car is 11-12 FC only. best obtained was 13, but that was really rare.
Take note also it saves u more fuel and make better FC by switching off engines during car wash if u use the commercial ones.
PS: I love the joy of manual car wash by myself, but when your car gets peppered by bird crap, u gave up washing with your bare hands
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To make better FC I also findout letting your car warm for abt 3-5 mins during morning startup saves u FC by up to 1 instead of driving off straigt after parking overnight esp on a cooler morning.
Hey, can you clarify on this point? How exactly do you know FC saves by 1? I believe the best way to go for a cold startup in the morning is to drive off straight away. Why waste fuel idling and warming up at 1100 rpm when you can put the fuel to good use at 2k rpm?
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Hey, can you clarify on this point? How exactly do you know FC saves by 1? I believe the best way to go for a cold startup in the morning is to drive off straight away. Why waste fuel idling and warming up at 1100 rpm when you can put the fuel to good use at 2k rpm?
you don't feel the car is slow in picking up and u tend to push a little more harder on accelerator to get in line with the average traffic speed when the cold engine light is still on?
Yes petrol are consumed at idle, but not as much as wasting fuel when U push it and rev harder just to get it to speed.
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Oh but are you driving the new Latio with the fuel consumption display? Do the numbers tally?
Because idling at a cold start uses alot of fuel too, since engine is running at a higher rpm to warm it up faster.
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Mine is older one no FC meter
I personally feel the car drags when the engine still cold. rev it up uses more petrol without effect to the speed and push I need
U want to believe, believe, no need to argue with me and say all the I think U thought stuff.
I find your reasoning of car idling during a cold star consumes a lot more petrol ridiculous. I may have ovestate a little on warm up time, of 3-5 mins, even 1 min is still better than none
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I think there are some things that can be done to reduce FC:
- Keep tyres properly inflated.
- Switch of the engine when stopped. Avoid idling.
- Avoid short trips.
- Avoid A/C.
- Drive as slowly as you can on highways in the highest possible gear ratio with the torque converter locked up. Wind resistance varies as the *square* of speed. Those with built in FC gauges can easily verify that speed costs fuel. A warmed up Toyota Wish can maintain a steady 21+km/L when cruising at 70km/hr on level ground (measurement averaged over 7km). That's with the A/C running (low). A Latio can do better than this. My guess is that it will pull 23+km/L under the same conditions.
- Keep air filter clean.
- Change engine oil at specified intervals. Use a low viscosity oil.
- Avoid braking unecessarily. Look ahead, well ahead and time the lights if you can. Keep sufficient buffer to avoid having to brake when the car in front changes speed.
- Accelerate smoothly and gently.
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Mine is older one no FC meter
I personally feel the car drags when the engine still cold. rev it up uses more petrol without effect to the speed and push I need
U want to believe, believe, no need to argue with me and say all the I think U thought stuff.
I find your reasoning of car idling during a cold star consumes a lot more petrol ridiculous. I may have ovestate a little on warm up time, of 3-5 mins, even 1 min is still better than none
I'm just saying that idling a car during cold start is a waste of petrol. After all, it has been widely publicized that the best way to warm up is to start driving. 3-5 min is too much, maybe around 30 seconds for the oil and everything to circulate would be fine.
I'm not flaming or not believeing, but I'm just curious how you can calculate saving "FC up to 1", since you don't have a FCD, the only way to calculate FC is at top-ups, and its impossible to tell since there are a lot of other factors for each tank.
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personally i ever search on the net for info abt morning start up. And the info i m given is to let it run for approx. 30sec and u can drive off. The car is better warm up when u drive. of course u aint allow to suddenly rev the car but maintain a slow n steady speed/rpm. And personally i do this every morning. sometime i start the engine and i was sending sms/putting my bag in the boot/checking the map, i spent few more mins and i realised my metre that cold icon still haven gone off. but using the 30sec method, the cold engine icon actually gone off as soon as i m like 1-2 level down the MSCP.
just my 0.00000002 cent. dun flame me. :zipped:
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I think there are some things that can be done to reduce FC:
- Keep tyres properly inflated.
- Switch of the engine when stopped. Avoid idling.
- Avoid short trips.
- Avoid A/C.
- Drive as slowly as you can on highways in the highest possible gear ratio with the torque converter locked up. Wind resistance varies as the *square* of speed. Those with built in FC gauges can easily verify that speed costs fuel. A warmed up Toyota Wish can maintain a steady 21+km/L when cruising at 70km/hr on level ground (measurement averaged over 7km). That's with the A/C running (low). A Latio can do better than this. My guess is that it will pull 23+km/L under the same conditions.
- Keep air filter clean.
- Change engine oil at specified intervals. Use a low viscosity oil.
- Avoid braking unecessarily. Look ahead, well ahead and time the lights if you can. Keep sufficient buffer to avoid having to brake when the car in front changes speed.
- Accelerate smoothly and gently.
Hi, 5w30 is consider low viscosity oil ???
cheers
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Hi, 5w30 is consider low viscosity oil ???
cheers
Yes, look at the number behind. The lower it is, the lower the viscosity. 30 is quite low liao.
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Sorrie guys....i did it again :devil2:
my best quarter tank :bleh:
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Hi bro fri13th, yr petrol sensor spoilt already ah.. :devil2:
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Sorrie guys....i did it again :devil2:
my best quarter tank :bleh:
Did you cut out your Latio floor and run it like the flinstones did?
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Did you cut out your Latio floor and run it like the flinstones did?
Haha thats a good one Bro! :bleh:
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Sorrie guys....i did it again :devil2:
my best quarter tank :bleh:
tis is unbelievable...really...i the best only see 190 at quarter tank.
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sighs, duno hw you pple did it or wat the hell happen to my car, 190 is my best at half tank and only happen once, often get 140+ ard half tank. :( :crycry:
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sighs, duno hw you pple did it or wat the hell happen to my car, 190 is my best at half tank and only happen once, often get 140+ ard half tank. :( :crycry:
hmm...wat is the milage u get when u drive till the fuel light lit up?
think average fc for latio is btw 11-13 km/l (except for those monsters who manage to get 600km++ for a full tank) :out:
did u upgrade your rim?
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haiz... ya lor my FC also very bad. about the same as chester...
never upgrade my rim but perhaps due to 3 yrs old car.
at 73000 mileage now. does it affect?
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yea, on 17" that play a part. never use till check lite come up before. always pump when needle mark half tank or lower abit.
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That is y i resist to change to 17". definately cause your fc to suffer.
but i can only envy those car wth 17"..look so swee :thumbsup:
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mine new ride just hitting 4k km... 4AT, stock car ... stock rims, tyres...
every 1/4 tank only manage to run 100km... :(
mostly city driving ... :(
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haiz... ya lor my FC also very bad. about the same as chester...
never upgrade my rim but perhaps due to 3 yrs old car.
at 73000 mileage now. does it affect?
Hi Ice68, mine also > 3yrs old but still can hit ard 12 ~14km/l in local and best result in NSHW at 19km/l. I do believe the no of yr do play a part but don't think too much of diff.
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mine new ride just hitting 4k km... 4AT, stock car ... stock rims, tyres...
every 1/4 tank only manage to run 100km... :(
mostly city driving ... :(
me too thou i m on 17". any FL pple out there getting gd mileage ? mayb the FL batch FC not tt good ?
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hi!
sigh, after my 20k servicing last mth, my fc drop to 10+ km/l :crying: engine oso no power and sound quite rough :crycry:
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me too thou i m on 17". any FL pple out there getting gd mileage ? mayb the FL batch FC not tt good ?
yours at least better....cos urs is on 17" ....mine all stock :(
probably dependent on driving patterns ...heavy foot + traffic condition..
i admit that i m alittle heavy foot... ;)
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Hi Ice68, mine also > 3yrs old but still can hit ard 12 ~14km/l in local and best result in NSHW at 19km/l. I do believe the no of yr do play a part but don't think too much of diff.
To add ~ at 13.5+km/l for my last tank in local and 18.91km/l on NSHW (at 95% HW condition last weekends)
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me too thou i m on 17". any FL pple out there getting gd mileage ? mayb the FL batch FC not tt good ?
I'm still on mineral oil and mileage only abt 3k and so far FC is around 12km/l hoping to improve after using syn oil
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I'm still on mineral oil and mileage only abt 3k and so far FC is around 12km/l hoping to improve after using syn oil
just did my 10K servicing recently...
i changed to fastflo syn oil>>> FC not much change from mineral oil haha
but abit loud (engine)....
think is due to fastflo problem
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Sorrie guys....i did it again :devil2:
my best quarter tank :bleh:
Hi bro , thats good , mine quarter tank only 125km only. Maybe due to the cheap engine oil that I use. (those Mobil 1 from Carrefour) :( :crycry: :crycry:
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I'm still on mineral oil and mileage only abt 3k and so far FC is around 12km/l hoping to improve after using syn oil
your FC should be expected to drop with time.
My advise is not to use fasflo syn, waste money, top it up with Shogun, 0w30 only cost me additional $3 plus
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your FC should be expected to drop with time.
My advise is not to use fasflo syn, waste money, top it up with Shogun, 0w30 only cost me additional $3 plus
hi!
shld b $3+ per litre. we r using 3.3l. so need to top up abt $11+ ;)
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Still running in my CVT FL sedan at 700km (not yet first svc). Collected the car that time the sales guy said they topped up $30 worth of Shell 98, so okay I try to drive until less than 1/4 then go and pump Synergy 8000 as I use different brand.
Just pumped my second tank of Synergy 8000 today and calculated my FC for the first tank to be about 13.3km/l. Noticed the fuel gauge on the FL Latio (or at least on mine) behaves differently.. The first three quarters seem to be quite balanced - one quarter for about every 140km. Highway/urban ratio about 70/30, but even then on highway I get stuck every morning on SLE-to-BKE slip road, BKE-to-KJE and the stretch on KJE leading to PIE.
Running on stock tyre and rim, I never check tyre pressure - collect the car only drive and go liao haha
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My FC range from 10.43km/L to 16.04km/L. If control your foot till your RPM not over 2000, you should get result > 14km/L.
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MIne latio sport 4AT just went for the 1st servicing. Before servicing, 1st 1/4 mark i can get 140km but after servicing the needle seems to drop a much faster. Going up NSH this wkend, will monitor the mileage.
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:D... today hit new record again.
Mileage 146.90km and filled with 9.11 Litter of fuel... 16.13km/L.. All stock.
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Sorrie guys....i did it again :devil2:
my best quarter tank :bleh:
omg.. its unbelievable.... does cvt makes any diff? and wat gas do u pump?
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whoaaa.....
with stock parts...as they are .....my best is slightly above 14km/l....
when i read here....wahh....all soo terror....!
i use highway more often...keep at about 2000rpm...light-footed....
can only dream to try hit 15km/l....
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hmm.. do u guys travel with spare tyre anot?
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Still running in my CVT FL sedan at 700km (not yet first svc). Collected the car that time the sales guy said they topped up $30 worth of Shell 98, so okay I try to drive until less than 1/4 then go and pump Synergy 8000 as I use different brand.
Just pumped my second tank of Synergy 8000 today and calculated my FC for the first tank to be about 13.3km/l. Noticed the fuel gauge on the FL Latio (or at least on mine) behaves differently.. The first three quarters seem to be quite balanced - one quarter for about every 140km. Highway/urban ratio about 70/30, but even then on highway I get stuck every morning on SLE-to-BKE slip road, BKE-to-KJE and the stretch on KJE leading to PIE.
Running on stock tyre and rim, I never check tyre pressure - collect the car only drive and go liao haha
tyre pressure affects fc alot =)
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Sian after servicing stil no difference... Tyre pressure I think ( :bleh: ) now should be ok 'cos TCM should have check pressure. Maybe should change petrol to experiment.. Wonder what petrol are fellow Latio drivers using, especially those clearing 15km/l?
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I think route and driving pattern are key factors. My CVT can achieve 9km/l in pure short city drive or 15km/l+ on NSHW trip. Emm... The City drive is using malaysian ESSO F1 while the NSHW is using sg ESSO 95 petrol.
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Sian after servicing stil no difference... Tyre pressure I think ( :bleh: ) now should be ok 'cos TCM should have check pressure. Maybe should change petrol to experiment.. Wonder what petrol are fellow Latio drivers using, especially those clearing 15km/l?
cannot trust tcm on this ba. last time servicing they rotate my tyres, end up my tyre pressure behind higher den front.. if not is .. drop til 185 they also never check.. lol.. damm sad case
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well i have been driving my latio for the last 10 months and have gone thru the 10000km mark....now currently at about 16000km mark...not once has the FC gone beyond 11.5km. In fact my current FC has never gone beyond 10.5km/ltr.. :crycry:
Feels like i am driving a russian tank... :mad:
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just to understand :
what's your driving pattern? - expressways vs city driving
cold tyre pressures?
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New record today - 20.52km/l heheh! ;D
20/80 city-highway, 80km/h max speed, acceleration at 2k rpm.
I thought this tank would be pretty terrible, since I had to fetch my parents and luggage to the airport, ~150kg extra weight with aircon on the whole trip(I live in west). Also, had to on AC a bit more than usual.
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wah! so good. The FC is for the whole tank or the airport trip only?
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Whole tank, around 380km at half tank mark. I think my petrol sensor a bit weird, so the half tank mark not really accurate.
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can tell me your
1) Tyre Model and pressure
2) Fuel used
3) EO used
I want to get better FC too.
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so, it is estimated?
best to actually fill the tank right to the brim and then to obtain the actual consumption based on the actual km travelled and the actual volume of petrol
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@ying
Falken 205/50/16 ZE512(I think, can't remember, tires came with the car when I bought 2nd hand)
Esso 92(used to pump 95, now try 92 see how. So far so good!)
EO is some cheapo brand Autosaver gave me for my servicing, but is weight 30 synthetic. I dunno can bring my own oil there. :unsure:
I think drive <80km/h, accelerate <2k rpm, and don't use brake unneccessarily, you can get around 15-16km/l.
@Silver
Should be quite accurate, I use the same pump, always to the brim.
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so sorry me bad, did not see whole tank .....
you joining the fuel frugal challenge, you can be strong contender but alas .............
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Thanks bro Sol :thumbsup: your car have other mod?
205/50/16 looks nice, I will look for lighter 16" rim next time. What is your tyre pressure ?
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Nope, no other mod. Just my driving style heavily modded for optimum FC haha. I don't believe in additives and magnets and whatnots hehe.
Tyre pressure is a bit controversial, I'm at 300kpa, been like this for half a year already.
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New record today - 20.52km/l heheh! ;D
20/80 city-highway, 80km/h max speed, acceleration at 2k rpm.
I thought this tank would be pretty terrible, since I had to fetch my parents and luggage to the airport, ~150kg extra weight with aircon on the whole trip(I live in west). Also, had to on AC a bit more than usual.
Brother, i have been reading about your FC topic, 20km/l is amazing. When you fill up petrol, do u feel to the brim?
I usually fill a fixed amt of 34 litres everytime the light comes on.
FYI:
On Esso/Caltex 95 ~ 15km/litre (before servicing)
On Esso 95 ~ 15km/litre (after servicing)
On caltex 95 ~ 15.7/litre (after servicing)
Front tires 265kpa
Back tires 235kpa
acceleration ~2000 with occasional rev-up
Highway speed ~ usually btw 90-95km/h
Can't improve further liao....
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Brother, i have been reading about your FC topic, 20km/l is amazing. When you fill up petrol, do u feel to the brim?
I usually fill a fixed amt of 34 litres everytime the light comes on.
FYI:
On Esso/Caltex 95 ~ 15km/litre (before servicing)
On Esso 95 ~ 15km/litre (after servicing)
On caltex 95 ~ 15.7/litre (after servicing)
Front tires 265kpa
Back tires 235kpa
acceleration ~2000 with occasional rev-up
Highway speed ~ usually btw 90-95km/h
Can't improve further liao....
15-16km/l is already very good!
-Slow down further. If you're not in a rush, drop to 80km/h or even 70km/h if you can take it. Wind resistance increases alot as you pass 80km/h. I tell myself to avoid the fast lane, so I won't tend to go so fast.
-Tyre pressure is ok. No need to go higher if you don't feel safe.
-When going uphill, avoid stepping on accelerator to drop gear and raise RPM. Try to keep the accelerator position locked, you will lose a bit of speed, but you save a lot of fuel. If the slope is very steep, its ok to step a bit more, but avoid downshifting.
-The most important thing to work on is braking. I've seen many cars on the road braking unnecessarily. Braking throws your FC out of the window! You are basically losing your momentum to heat energy(useless). If you see a red light, let go of the accelerator. Downslope and you're going too fast, use engine braking instead of brakes. Just avoid brakes as much as possible, and you can definitely improve. I believe this is what is stopping you from better FC.
I always fill to the brim, DIY. Don't really trust the pump attendant to top up all the way.
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Tyre pressure is a bit controversial, I'm at 300kpa, been like this for half a year already.
Your tyre max pressure is 50 psi, so 300 kpa is still normal.
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Oh, den it must be the wrong tyre model I gave you. Mine is rated 44PSI max. If its 50PSI I definitely will pump 50 lol.
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15-16km/l is already very good!
-Slow down further. If you're not in a rush, drop to 80km/h or even 70km/h if you can take it. Wind resistance increases alot as you pass 80km/h. I tell myself to avoid the fast lane, so I won't tend to go so fast.
-Tyre pressure is ok. No need to go higher if you don't feel safe.
-When going uphill, avoid stepping on accelerator to drop gear and raise RPM. Try to keep the accelerator position locked, you will lose a bit of speed, but you save a lot of fuel. If the slope is very steep, its ok to step a bit more, but avoid downshifting.
-The most important thing to work on is braking. I've seen many cars on the road braking unnecessarily. Braking throws your FC out of the window! You are basically losing your momentum to heat energy(useless). If you see a red light, let go of the accelerator. Downslope and you're going too fast, use engine braking instead of brakes. Just avoid brakes as much as possible, and you can definitely improve. I believe this is what is stopping you from better FC.
I always fill to the brim, DIY. Don't really trust the pump attendant to top up all the way.
Bro, all that you have said i am already practising, except for dropping to speed 80 and using engine brake. I try to work on that and see how. Everyday work late, after that only want to drive fast to reach home :unsure:
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15-16km/l is already very good!
-Slow down further. If you're not in a rush, drop to 80km/h or even 70km/h if you can take it. Wind resistance increases alot as you pass 80km/h. I tell myself to avoid the fast lane, so I won't tend to go so fast.
-Tyre pressure is ok. No need to go higher if you don't feel safe.
-When going uphill, avoid stepping on accelerator to drop gear and raise RPM. Try to keep the accelerator position locked, you will lose a bit of speed, but you save a lot of fuel. If the slope is very steep, its ok to step a bit more, but avoid downshifting.
-The most important thing to work on is braking. I've seen many cars on the road braking unnecessarily. Braking throws your FC out of the window! You are basically losing your momentum to heat energy(useless). If you see a red light, let go of the accelerator. Downslope and you're going too fast, use engine braking instead of brakes. Just avoid brakes as much as possible, and you can definitely improve. I believe this is what is stopping you from better FC.
I always fill to the brim, DIY. Don't really trust the pump attendant to top up all the way.
hi bro,
u driving a manuel car?
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I think a Nissan Fuel Challenge is not necessary...but rather i would be curious to see Latio vs New City vs Vios and see who's the winner..
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Bro, all that you have said i am already practising, except for dropping to speed 80 and using engine brake. I try to work on that and see how. Everyday work late, after that only want to drive fast to reach home :unsure:
Yup, just practice on braking more, speed issue is easy, you can do it when you're not in a rush. Good luck!
hi bro,
u driving a manuel car?
Singapore don't have manual Latio la brother! ;D If manual I sure go for it. I think you unsure about engine brake? Auto also have engine brake, just lift off the accelerator. Force downshift also can.
I think a Nissan Fuel Challenge is not necessary...but rather i would be curious to see Latio vs New City vs Vios and see who's the winner..
I dunno about the new city, but vios will definitely beat Latio. Much lighter, plus MT in the hands of a skilled driver, I think 20-23km/l is possible.
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Yup, just practice on braking more, speed issue is easy, you can do it when you're not in a rush. Good luck!
Singapore don't have manual Latio la brother! ;D If manual I sure go for it. I think you unsure about engine brake? Auto also have engine brake, just lift off the accelerator. Force downshift also can.
I dunno about the new city, but vios will definitely beat Latio. Much lighter, plus MT in the hands of a skilled driver, I think 20-23km/l is possible.
I heard from Vios drivers, if PFL model yes, FC beat Latio but after FL model which the weight increased, not really. ;)
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I heard from Vios drivers, if PFL model yes, FC beat Latio but after FL model which the weight increased, not really. ;)
You mean the E and G and J models? Yes, they do look more 'solid'. Maybe you're right!
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just to understand :
what's your driving pattern? - expressways vs city driving
cold tyre pressures?
I would say 50/50 to my office but considering morning traffic slows down considerably along the expressway traveling speed along expressway average 50km to 60km if no major traffic problems...and distance to office is only 13.8km from home...evening no problems with traffic..
tyre pressure front 250 and back 240..
thinking of sending in to TCM to check what is wrong considering the returns that other Latio users are reporting... :crycry: :crycry:
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perhaps if you could come to the next monthly meet-up and if some of the FC champions can come along, then we could observe both your driving style as well as the champions'?
as mentioned by some of the other forummers, do you brake a lot or do you conserve momentum wherever possible?
also, do you carry extra weight around, eg, leaving "unwanted" stuff in the boot?
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just change from Esso 95 to Esso 92, I like the feel, not bad leh . My petrol bill is even lower now.
My previous FC is 9.9km/l but I think our car is just fine, just that the number of cold start, short distance city route with many traffic light contributed the poor FC. Same car same condition I can get >15km/l on NSH to KL anytime. So it is the route and the driver. That's if we talk about Latio alone.
Other cars maybe easier to get better FC on such City Route, thats another topic.
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I keep my rpm while accelerating between 2k - 3k on normal roads, enter expressways at 4k rpm, drive at 110.. I get close to 13km/l.
I pick up slow, enter expressways normally, drive at 90, I get 13.4km/l. Like no difference... :out: on CVT btw... I now confused liao :blink:
Car mileage about 3k.. on Esso 98.. Maybe its a petrol thing?
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I heard from Vios drivers, if PFL model yes, FC beat Latio but after FL model which the weight increased, not really. ;)
pre FL one the FC is very tok kong :devil2: